On Wednesday 19 March 2008 16:50, Vivian Meazza wrote: [snip...] > > > > Remember: release early, release often. > > > > > > I nearly said that - and chickened out at the last minute - > > > yes - I support this. > > > > > > V. > > > > Heh - I really don't like that phrase. It may sound 'cool' but > > to me it's saying 'design by trial and error', which is an > > oxymoron:) > > > > I also think it does nothing to encourage quality and is likely > > to increase the number of bugs that will be encountered by > > people who are trying to use the s/w, or who are trying to > > develop for it. > > > > All in all, I regard it as a bit of a cop-out by developers who > > are too lazy to thoroughly think things through and, with > > regard to commercial s/w, a method of extorting money for > > faulty goods. > > > > It certainly doesn't encourage confidence that the s/w will > > work and as FG isn't just an academic exercise in s/w > > development - a lot of people and groups are using it for a > > very wide range of purposes - I can't agree that it's a good > > idea. > > > > Sure - new features and developments have to be beta-tested in > > a wider environment, and cvs is right for that, but not for > > alpha testing. > > > > Just a personal view:) > > OK, Lee - yes, no alpha testing. In this particular case the > patch is well into beta. The alpha testing was done by me and > others. I hope that you will test it. > > And as a carrot, the quicker this is done, the quicker we can > move on to getting the other goodies and bug fixes into cvs. > > Vivian
Hi Vivian, snipped most of the post because it was _only_ that phrase, and the design/development philosophy that it implied to me, that I was really referring to. I've no problem with the patch itself - I've been following the discussions about it and agree with you that it seems to have been adequately alpha-tested by several people without hitting problems, so re this specific patch - yes, it's time to think about putting it in cvs so that it can now be more widely beta-tested:) As for me alpha-testing it - well, it's not really my area of expertise, operation or interest. I'm not going to try to pretend that I have any real expertise in debugging C++ design & code when there are many more people working on the project who do have the requisite skills. Because working on the FG code isn't an area where I can really offer anything, I don't try to operate in that area. If those two points are accepted, and while there's plenty of other areas related to the FG project that I feel I can offer something, I don't feel too bad about not being interested in participating in areas where I can't. I guess I'm saying that I'd rather stick to areas where I believe I have some competence rather than cloud the water in areas where I'm not:) LeeE ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel