On Saturday 24 Oct 2009, Nicolas Quijano wrote:
[snip...]
> Really, really misguided, and it showcases a prevalent
> undercurrent with some of our members, who think the GPL means
> something else than it really does
[...] 

I think this really sums up the issue here.

The GPL isn't there to protect any supposed rights of the developers 
but to ensure the 'freedom' of the software: this is the point of 
the GPL.

The GPL is not concerned with the use of the work but with its 
distribution and it is addressed to the _receivers_ of software, 
not the developers or distributors (obviously, the developer has 
not received the work, as they are the originator, and a 
distributor must first receive the work before they can distribute 
it).

Once someone releases something under the GPL they have given up 
ownership of the work (but not the copyright of their personal 
work) and from that point have no 'rights' to dictate how or where 
it's used.

(copyright only deals with how others may copy and further 
redistribute the work, and not with who 'owns' the work.  As anyone 
may modify the work as they like, use it as they wish and cannot 
dictate conditions concerning modification or use upon others, the 
work is effectively ownerless)

The restrictions upon redistribution are not there to enforce any 
developer rights because there are none, but to ensure that if 
another developer builds upon the work of others, and then wishes 
to further redistribute it, they cannot add further restrictions to 
a work that is not solely their's to restrict; part of their 
redistributed work was created by someone else who has already set 
the restrictions, as specified by the GPL.

Ultimately, I think it needs to be remembered that the point of 
developing FG is to make a flight simulator and not to act as some 
form of ethical copyright police force.  The fact is though, that 
an awful lot of energy and emotion has been spent here on this 
list, and for all I know, in the forums and irc too, and it's all 
energy that could have gone into more productive work instead.

If individuals want to spend their time bounty-hunting (although 
there's no ca$h bounty, of course) then they're welcome to do so, 
but this should not be a concern of the FG project.  The only time 
that this issue should concern the FG project is when someone tries 
to stop or limit the redistribution of the FG project's work.

If someone wants to enforce conditions of use upon their work, or 
conditions beyond what GPL allows, then they _cannot_ use the GPL.

Some people really need to get their heads around this, so to 
reiterate: if you're not prepared to give up complete ownership of 
your work, then don't release it under the GPL.

FlightProSim, or FlighSimtPro, or ProFLightSim, or SimFlightPro, or 
whoever are perfectly entitled to take FG, call it what they like 
and then sell it, as long as they make the source code available 
for any parts of it that are covered by the GPL, including any work 
they've done that is based upon the GPL'd code.  If they also 
distribute another bit of software along with their modified 
version of FG, then provided that it is wholly theirs and is not 
built upon any GPL'd work, they can impose whatever conditions they 
like.  It is not a violation of the GPL to distribute non-GPL'd 
software along with GPL'd software, but while they can impose 
restrictions upon their software, those restrictions cannot and 
will not apply to the GPL'd content.

LeeE

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