On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 20:29:55 +0800, Innis wrote in message 
<blu131-w17c7e956211e458dacc7f2df...@phx.gbl>:

> 
> Hi Guys
> I think you will find on all Boeing aircraft if the elevator is out
> of neutral for a set amount of time the horizontal stabilizer runs to
> return the elevator to the null position.Hence retriming the
> aircraft.Hence the name stabilizer trim I think also you will find
> that the tab on the elevator is not a trim tab but moves in the
> opposite direction to the elevator movement.

..those "tabs" are 'servo rudders', the essentially "fly the 
elevators etc they hang on to, not the plane", etc for rudders, 
ailerons etc.  
They are often _combined_ with trim tab controls, though.

> So until we get a 
> working FDM for the horizontal stabilizer in FG anything else will be
> a hack.

..maybe a tree of sub-FDM's?

> Cheers
> Innis
>  
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I just tried with the SenceaII and both Ti and elevator filter
> > influence this.
> > 
> > Great, thanks to all for the help!
> > 
> > Cheers
> > Heiko
> > 
> > > If you have a pid-simple-controller,
> > > try increasing Ti, it slows down
> > > the action.
> > > > Hi Torsten,
> > > > 
> > > > That sounds like it could be done without nasal just
> > > in the autopilot file. I guess the speed of the
> > > trim-pitch-channel can be changed with the filter? (The
> > > 737-300 has a speed-trim at certain situations)
> > > > 
> > > > Kind regards
> > > > Heiko
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Heiko,
> > > > > 
> > > > > the auto-pitch-trim channel moves the elevator
> > > trim to
> > > > > return the 
> > > > > elevator into the neutral position while the
> > > pitch-channel
> > > > > moves the 
> > > > > elevator to change attitude.
> > > > > Or a bit more technical:
> > > > > The auto-pitch-trim-channel compares the
> > > elevator-pos-norm
> > > > > to a 
> > > > > reference of zero and adjusts elevator-trim
> > > > > The pitch-channel compares e.g. current pitch
> > > with a
> > > > > reference of some 
> > > > > calculated target pitch and adjusts elevator-pos
> > > > > Usually the pitch-trim channel is much slower
> > > than the
> > > > > elevator channel.
> > > > > HTH, Torsten
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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