Oliver Fels > > > All this is absolutely false. I never requested a change in the FDM > > Alouette 2 ! If I could not fly, and although it does not bother me. > > JM-26 and many, many others were sad not to do so. > > The point with the AlouetteII is that it is a helicopter with absolute no > stabilisation or control compensation aids the same way as the R22 is- > just with a higher mass, a turbine and more power. > > Thus if you apply control you will have to make sure that you apply > compensation on each (!!!) axes simultaneously. > That makes a helicopter beginner struggle with the controls and propably > fail but does not make the FDM unrealistic. > At least it is a (legacy) helicopter with all its challenges. > If you have not seen an unstable AlouetteII upon takeoff (as you mentioned > in the other post) this is simply the case because you are watching a > trained pilot, not a simplistic FDM. > Thereore before changing the FDM in FlightGear to please the not-so- > trained pilots I would have appreciated to ask some of the more > experienced pilots regarding their impressions. > As to my experiences with the Alouette2 I can say that I can apply stable > hovers with minimum locational deviations and that I once landed the thing > stable in the bay of a FlightGear carrier. Things you can not accomplish > with a broken FDM. Though I have not checked it for a while. > However the floats version seems to have some issues with CoG and high > speed flight. > > So I am somehow surprised regarding the latest happenings and do not > appreciate the way the FDM was changed without a concensus to do so. >
As one of the few, or possibly the only one, involved in FG to have stick time (just a few hours) on helos of this era, I can say that the old fdm feels pretty realistic, so far as I can recall. It is flyable, and actually not too difficult. I would say Maik did a pretty good job. I think that the solution of having easy/hard fdms is a good compromise, although personally, I can't think why anyone would want to fly an unrealistic fdm. After all - realism is what FG is all about. This thread has gone on too long, and there has been far too much said of a personal nature. It has not reflected well on anyone, and not on the ethic of this list, nor on FG. Time to call a halt. Vivian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ What Every C/C++ and Fortran developer Should Know! Read this article and learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help Windows* and Linux* C/C++ and Fortran developers boost performance applications - including clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel