On 2011-10-27 14.29, Curtis Olson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:09 AM, James Turner wrote: > >> >> On 27 Oct 2011, at 12:58, Jari Häkkinen wrote: >> >>> Sorry for the rant-like appearance of this message. >> >> No need to apologise, I'd say it's 100% accurate - including the lack of a >> single leader, the fact that project does 'okay' without very tight central >> leadership, mostly, and the attendant responsibility on the people making >> the decisions :) > > > Let me add a couple comments -- > > Jari, think through the work load of what you'd like a single leader to do. > To be intimately involved in all the major projects and efforts going on. > Respond to every issue and question in a timely manner. Have a deep > understanding of every corner of the code and the project.
I might have use "Project lead" wrongly, I mean "Project lead" loosely as an group of people (that is why I did not say Project leader). Ideally a group of people would share the responsibility of the project. This group does not even have to be the lead developers but such a structure would require some loss of "freedom" that potentially hurt the project. (Didn't Franz Melchior loose some interest in fg due to a "freedom" clash. We now he is still watching us.) Anyhow, I am drifting off topic but my response was to Heikos questions on who makes the decision and acts as police. It was not meant as criticism of any single person in the project. And not even an attempt to change the project structure. Cheers, Jari - with a full time job not related to flying and with a family needing attention. But, I do need strong coffee during the hours I can play with fg ;) > Now imagine people who have day jobs -- who might need to be focused on > something else for a good chunk of the day so they can eat and provide > shelter for themselves. Oh, and imagine some of these people could have > families and kids and spouses that want to have some interaction once in a > while. Oh, and not everyone lives on redbull and doritos so there needs to > be some sleep planned into the schedule. Should a flightgear leader be > allowed to take the night off to watch a sports game or visit friends? > > So just remember we are doing this all for free on top of all our other life > commitments. Maybe I'm wrong, but I suspect that for someone to fulfill > your expectations, they would need to be 100% full time dedicated to that > single task. And if the FlightGear project can't offer full time pay to > that person, how can we expect them to dedicate all their available work > time to the task? > >> From my perspective, the FlightGear project has grown way beyond what a > single person can hold in their head all at once. This is why we work > towards systems that distribute the load and give more access. We aren't > perfect and maybe we don't always act quickly enough and certainly we all > are human beings and are open for heavy criticism if that's the direction we > would want to take this. > > We are a group of individuals coming together with a common interest. I > would hope we realize our own limits and flaws and thus are a somewhat > flexible when encountering the limits and flaws in other people. But yet > despite our collective limits and imperfections, together we are doing our > best to make positive contributions to this wonderful project. > > Best regards, > > Curt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The demand for IT networking professionals continues to grow, and the demand for specialized networking skills is growing even more rapidly. Take a complimentary Learning@Cisco Self-Assessment and learn about Cisco certifications, training, and career opportunities. http://p.sf.net/sfu/cisco-dev2dev _______________________________________________ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
