Hi Curt

Maybe these are two types of conferences now. One could be the WIFGH, the 
Weekly International FlightGear Hangout ;-) Or monthly ?

Another option I see now is probably a smaller european conference when I read 
about this idea at the forums. Maybe spring or summer 2013 is a possible 
schedule. The problems you mentioned about travelling etc. is serious, but when 
we are looking for some sponsorship for conference location and accomodation 
maybe it's doable? We could try to collect money to pay flights for developers 
who have a good setting for the project, but no money left for travelling now.

I will help to collect money and to organize such a meeting. I guess everyone 
has its prefs about location (see the forum post). I would recommend 
Switzerland of course, because James and Vivan can park their JU-52 here: 
http://www.airforcecenter.ch/index.php?id=25 , and because one could invite 
this guy http://www.rtw2012.com and he can not charge that much expenses . Or 
because the devs could visit this lab here http://www.sfly.org . Or because the 
Google Zurich Headquarters could sponsor an international video hangout in the 
nice old brewery they took. (They also took all the beer!).

But ... maybe you know it already, Switzerland is not in Europe unfortunately. 
Sad, we need to look for another location. (Ok when we go along family size and 
children, then I will win a location contest probably).

-Yves



    




Am 02.12.2012 um 14:35 schrieb Curtis Olson <curtol...@flightgear.org>:

> The FS Weekend event has been the closest thing to a developer conference 
> that we've had over the past few years.    Our developers are dispersed 
> across the world so any event would involve significant travel for most 
> people.  For people with day jobs, young families, or tight budgets, 
> international travel can be a significant challenge.  Everyone is in a 
> slightly different situation though, so attending an event might be doable 
> for enough people to make it worth while?  With our size, it probably makes 
> sense to continue to piggy back on other larger events.
> 
> Another thing that might be fun to try is a group skype call or google 
> hangout.  I think you have to pay money for the high end version of skype to 
> organize a group skype call, but google hangouts are free.  If there's any 
> interest in something like this it would be fun to try it out.  I could 
> imagine a weekly "hangout" to discuss issues of the week, future 
> developments, etc.
> 
> When FlightGear was first launched in the late 90's, group email was the way 
> these things were done, but now we have more options.  For a google hangout 
> we have to deal with timezones around the world, and we'll never have a 
> perfectly convenient time for everyone.  If you've never used google hangouts 
> before, you have to download a plugin for your browser (which is available 
> for windows, mac, linux) and then you need a google+ account.  I propose 
> google hangouts because it's free to the end user (even though not 
> open-source), supports all the major platforms out there (and can even run on 
> smartphones or tablets), and as far as I know, there isn't an upper limit to 
> the number of participants in a hangout.
> 
> But if anyone is interested in something like this, let's propose a time to 
> do a test.  I think for many people they'll need to spend some time messing 
> around getting the plugin installed, getting their mike and video to work (if 
> they wish to show their face) :-)  I got it running pretty quickly on linux, 
> but the true test was that I got it running on a mac and a windows box (which 
> means it can't be all that hard to get running there if I could do it.) :-)
> 
> Curt.
> 
> 
> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Olivier <acom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi Yves, all,
>> 
>> De : HB-GRAL <flightg...@sablonier.ch>
>> Envoyé le : Dimanche 2 décembre 2012 12h12
>> 
>> > My dream: FlightGear should held a developer meeting once next year. 
>> > This would be my all time favourite. Have there been such meetings once?
>> At least there were thoughts about doing a FG "Eurodev" conference ( 
>> http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=8337 ) after the 
>> FSWeekend.
>> 
>> FG is a very exciting project, where everyone can find a place where he can 
>> contribute depending on his skills, interests, ... Maybe something we are 
>> lacking is a kind of roadmap, so we can have a clearer view on the future.
>> 
>> Olivier (silent, but working!)
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