This started out OT and has only gotten more so. Can we end it here, please?
On Friday 07 September 2001 03:45 pm, you wrote:
> On Friday 07 September 2001 06:07 pm, John Check escribi�:
> > Hear hear
>
> OK, I originally posted my experience with Mandrake. Since a lot of
> y'all are probly LM users, comment on this discussion.
> ~~
> new linux drivers for nvidia cards Version: 1.0-1512
> From: Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> On Friday 07 September 2001 02:46 pm, Linux xxxxx escribi�:
> > Is it possible for me to get a reverse-compiler
> > for Linux and de-compile these things into C or C++ ?
>
> Yes, then D/l the windoze drivers and have at it. You'll also need to
> dissect their chips. Might need some $pecial hardware ;> Careful tho,
> you might havt'a finish the job in jail along with that Russian guy.
>
> The excuse 'partially' Linux supportive vendors like nVidia an other
> Win-tel members give is that they don't want to expose their
> intellectual property by releasing the source for their drivers.
>
> I guarantee this is B$. The Wintel-M$ gang doesn't want popular and
> current hardware fully supported by other than Billy's OS. ATI has
> probly dissected nVidia drivers and chips to the point they might even
> know more about them than nVidia does.
>
> Hard fact of life that remains is that their hardware will never be
> fully functional and/or supported, or even could possibly be, by the
> Linux community developers until they provide open source so that it
> can be compiled against the almost infinite number of kernel, libc,
> gcc, etc., possibilities that currently exist across Linux distros,
> kernels, and users .... without retribution.
>
> What bothered me the most about nVidia's newest 1512 "Mandrake 8.0"
> closed source B$ drivers is that either out'a stupidity on their part,
> or intentionally, they were built against a 2.4.3 kernel and XFree 4.0.2
> Neither of which are current to 8.0. The Xfree part maybe NBFD, but
> the kernel is.
>
> (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o
> (II) Module nvidia: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
> compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.1512
> Module class: XFree86 Video Driver
>
> D/l the nVidia precompiled 8.0-1512 rpm and you'll get a warning that
> it needs '2.4.3-20mdk' kernel. That doesn't mean it won't work with
> newer kernels, but it means it probly won't... and doesn't in my
> experience, or from what I've read on the cooker (Mdk developers) list.
>
> I've got one word for nVidia's Linux support, and like most in the
> wintel-gang, it's .... DISINGENUOUS. They're just stringin us along,
> with poor, partially capable, closed source secret drivers. IMO, out'a
> fear of losing M$ cooperation. YMMV I'm sort's pi$$'d at myself for
> buyin nVidia crap, even tho I knew all the above beforehand. My only
> excuse is it's gettin harder and harder... not to. Billy's winning ;(
> ~~
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