On Sunday 10 December 2006 15:21, Georg Vollnhals wrote:
> Jeremy Santizo schrieb:
> > Is there any other web page for downloading more FG planes or i can get
> > them only at the FG page?

I decided to give some of these a try.  Here is what I found.

>
> http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/hangar/hangar.html

The FJ-3 flies fine.  But seems to start out about 15 or 20 feet above the 
runway and falls to the ground when I set an initial position in FG.  Since I 
have never piloted one of these I don't have any idea how realistic the FDM 
is.

Side note - I use an initial position so that I start out on the taxiway near 
the runway so that I can do my preflight and get ready for takeoff without 
blocking the runway.  

The Folk Wolf 190 does not appear to have an engine.  At least I was not able 
to get it to run.  Like the FJ-3 appears to start above the position set 
using an initial position in FG.  

The SeaFury flies and taxis OK.  But the FDM does not seem even close to 
realistic to me.  I was not able to get it to go faster then about 250 MPH 
indicated.  I have seen Seafury's fly from fairly close distances at the 
National Air Race Championships in Reno on many occasions and under a variety 
of conditions and these things go like hell when the throttle is opened up.  
Stock ones will do close to 400 MPH around the Reno closed 9 mile unlimited 
course and I have personally seen modified ones do 496 MPH around the same 
course.  Reno is at about 4500 feet and the unlimiteds stay with in 300 feet 
of the ground.  Of course the model here has wing tanks which would slow it 
down some but I would expect one with wing tanks to do at least 350 MPH at 
sea level.

I was unable to get the MiG-21 to do anything other than sit at it's initial 
position.

The F-4N has the same initial position problem as the FJ-3 and the Folk Wolf 
190.  But it does taxi and fly OK.  Since I have never piloted one of these I 
don't have any idea how realistic the FDM is.

With the T-6A Texan II model flight gear will not start on my system. 

> http://www.copyleft.de/FlightGear/index-en.html

This site has a download that has some pretty cool aircraft.  The ME-262 flies 
very nicely but does not have a panel.  So you have to use the HUD as a 
substitute.  It is docile both on the ground and in the air which the 
originals were also reported to be. 

I found the HE-162 very difficult to handle on the ground and underpowered for 
a jet and somewhat unstable in the air.  The originals were noted for having 
stability problems because of the excessive dihedral so the FDM might 
actually be close.   

The J3 included in this download is also very nice with improved animation 
compared to the one on the FlightGear site and you also fly it from the back 
seat which is more realistic.  

The Horten flying wing needs FDM work and currently flies like the flying 
saucer.

> http://www.sol2500.net/flightgear/aircr_e.htm

I think this is the same ME 109 that is on the FG aircraft download page.  But 
I may be wrong.  Still being worked on but a nice model even in its current 
state.

The Beaufighter seems to have the toe brakes backwards.  Was this a "feature" 
of the original or is the FDM wrong?  Other wise taxis and fly OK.

The Junkers is nice even with the incomplete panel.

Can't wait for the Mosquito to get farther along.

> http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/

The Seneca II from the above link is very nice.  Most of the controls, 
switches and the like are working and the cockpit and panel are very nicely 
done.  The doors open and close and there is even a map sitting on the right 
seat.   It is complete enough that you will need to read the documentation 
and follow normal procedures to able to fly this.  One of the nicer models 
available for FG.

> http://www.gidenstam.org/FlightGear/JSBSim-LTA

Balloons, zeppelins and blimps.  Have not tried this yet but the web page says 
it is still all alpha so I think I will wait until it is more mature. 

> http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/tux/index-en.html

The download links are mostly broken on this page.  Too bad since I would love 
to have the Lysander in my hanger.  I am also looking forward to the P38 
becoming available.  

> http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewvc/viewvc.cgi/data/Aircraft/

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