> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Lyke [mailto:danl...@flutterby.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:20 PM
> 
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:54:47 +0100
> "Bo Berglund" <bo.bergl...@telia.com> wrote:
> > I might still do it since FS-X Deluxe is on sale for the equivalent 
> > of 38 USD. Not a lot of money to bother with...
> 
> I'm not an expert. I haven't been in a seat with a stick or a yoke for
> nigh on to three and a half decades, when I was a young 
> teenager in the
> right seat of my uncle's airplane.
> 
> I also recently bought a tricked out computer for work. I prefer the
> Linux environment, but I needed a Windows box and this one came with
> Vista installed, and I promised myself I wasn't going to muck with the
> install. However, I had an old copy of FS-X in a box, that I hadn't
> done anything with because it was on the high end of the resource
> needs of my previous Windows machine and said "I wonder...".
> 
> So I installed it. I flew a bunch of the sample missions. I popped in
> my town's airport and flew to the other one I drive by all the time.

I just found my new FS-X DeLuxe requires 15 Gb hard disk space free to
install! I have 14.5 Gb free so it quit the installation! Yikes, 15 Gb!

> Then I said "this is crap", and installed FlightGear, and then I had
> joystick issues and now I'm thinking I'll just repartition and put
> Linux on the machine, mostly so that I can run FlightGear.
> 
> As I said, any current feel for flight I have is two decades 
> out of date
> or gleaned from sitting back in the passenger section, but 
> there are so
> many places where FS-X feels *wrong* that it didn't work out for me
> (especially in its helicopter sim, but that's a different 
> rant). And I'm
> saying this having complained on this very mailing list that you can
> land the FlightGear P-51, an airplane that I've read has some
> particularly heinous stall characteristics, by lowering the gear,
> pulling all the way back on the stick, and waiting.

I am from Sweden and we had the 3rd largest air force in the world by 
the end of the 1950:s. Most of these fighters were developed in Sweden
by the company SAAB (Swedish Aircraft AktieBolag, which means Inc).
Their second Jet fighter was called the J29 Flying Barrel in English
or Flygande Tunnan in Swedish.
This was a good fighter for its time and could beat the crap out of
the MIG:s the Soviets planned to send at us.

However, it had a very dangerous configuration because of its swept wings.
They were swept back at a big angle and the problem was in landing.
If you did a turn just above the tarmac out of the wind one wing would
extend out and gain enormous lift causing an immediate roll and crash!
There were a good many pilots killed by this.

So landing is not the easiest of things in high performance aircraft.

> 
> All this is the long way of saying that if you're looking for 
> something
> more realistic and less game-like you might spend your money on
> X-Plane, or you could spend some time improving FlightGear, but I'm
> pretty sure you'll find FS-X is going the wrong direction.
> 

I'll consider this or staying with FlightGear and the aircraft that
are available.

But I'd really would like to see how far FS has come from the versions
I used in the 1990:s. I still have the boxes for FS ver 3.0 (for DOS)
and FS 2002 for Windows 98 and up).
It *did* work back then on hardware that was a lot more limited than
what exists today....

BosseB


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