On 03/11/09 01:23, Brian Fahrlander wrote: > Ed Greenberg wrote: >> Ron Jensen wrote: >> >>> I haven't flown keyboard in years. :D >>> > Yeah, I don't miss it, either. :> > >> I appreciate that flying keyboard is silly, but I discovered this in the >> office, where joysticks and throttles would be out of place. >> >> No FlightGear at home yet... There are issues on Fedora 10, at least >> with my nVIDIA. Not ready to diagnose and ask for help yet. >> >> </edg> >> > On a different topic...and this isn't intended to start a flame war, > but Nvidia cards above "2" (like Geforce 4, 5500, 6xxx etc) are all new > enough to have an almost hands-off install of the cards AND of > FlightGear under Ubuntu. It's a really smooth, simple place. > > I started with Redhat 4.0; coming from Slackware 2.3's THIRTY > floppies and no X server (though I was suppose to come up with sensible > defaults to make one) Redhat was miles ahead. I stayed with it until > Fedora 9, and never though Debian, or anything like it could be as good. > > Then I was fighting hard to get Fedora's OpenLDAP packages to work. > People all over the net were telling me "Here, use my config to test" > and nothing worked. This went on for months! That is, until they > announced their purchase of Netscape's Directory Services and then all > the sudden OpenLDAP worked just fine again. > > I never noticed the RPM "Dependency Hell" much...until I came to > Ubuntu. I think it was Dapper. I've been on it ever since! And just > like I don't notice the virus BS that I used to have with Microsoft, I > don't notice the problems of Redhat in the same way. > > Think about it; they make decisions based on general good, not > business-specific issues. And life is so easy there! Linux has come a > LONG way. "aptitude install flightgear" gets all this installed, and > just about any USB joystick, Nvidia card, and you're home free! >
I haven't tried Flightgear on other than SuSE/openSUSE, their distro version was pretty useless, so I have always built my own. No problems with Nvidia cards, I tend to run on the latest vanilla kernels and I provide feedback on their driver, VirtualBox and any other packages that fail so the developers know what the next kernel complains about - fixes are often very speedy indeed. There was a longstanding problem with CH Yoke and Pedals dating back to around 2.6.15 where the devices had to be replugged after a reboot for the controls to function, however acting on a patch that fixed a CH Joystick, I altered the source to include my devices along the same lines - it worked and is now in the mainline kernel since May this year. I booted the first Linux kernel and stayed with the development all the way through using Minix's filesystem, bootlace and shoelace for booting off HD, lilo, then EXT, Sun's WABI to run WFW 3.1. X and OLVWM appeared 2 weeks after the discussion appeared making WABI a practical proposition. Then there was VMWare until that started lagging behind kernel development. Even the ELF and libc6 switch didn't cause any insurmountable problems. I did have a few scares when using Linux in a corporate setting where Windows ruled and thought I would have to add Win95 to my laptop, then magically appeared StarOffice, Citrix Linux client and Cisco VPN client for Linux allowing me to do all my work stuff plus staying ahead of the pack with xdm on Linux for easily hooking up to multiple partitions on large SPARC systems, something impossible with Windows and Solaris. X3270 for the mainframe work and even using wine to run Lotus Notes when we switched our mail system to it. Only a few of us in the company used Linux exclusively and even some like our Principal Engineer who had Linux on his PC in dual boot, I had to show him how more effectively he could do his job using Linux instead of Windows. Hardware development has also played it's part as I can remember reading an article announcing a flightsim for Linux that then needed iron far in excess of anything then practical. Apologies for the digression, but it shows what could be done with Linux going back 14 years. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ Flightgear-users mailing list Flightgear-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-users
