Good afternoon,

I think that there may be some benefit to adding instructions for screen-reader users, but I would think that they should not be JAWS specific, as there are a number of other screen-readers in use.

As for JAWS keystrokes I would say that all of the current keytroke available on the page are sufficient, but that there is some confusion for any screen-reader user when interacting with a web application.

The cognitive paradigm for web interfaces, for most screen-reader users, is one of a flat document with only html form controls. It will take a lot of learning and new habit formation for AT users to become comfortable with the complex UI controls available through ARIA implementations.

By far the most confusing aspect to me is the inline edit field being identified by AT as a button. This may be the best option currently available under the ARIA spec, but the control is clearly not a button.

I would provide feedback on undo and redo, but since I couldn't find any reference to this on the page it was like it was non-existent to JAWS.

HTH,
Everett

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On 11-May-09, at 4:13 PM, Michael S Elledge wrote:

Hi all--

Is there an opportunity to provide more "contextual" information for users, for example, when they land on the page? And to add JAWS keystrokes? It sounded as if the two JAWS users were confused and tried to use known keystrokes for orientation (which didn't work).

Mike

Alison Benjamin wrote:
I'd say it's worth sharing because it could be confusing to hear "true". Plus it looks really easy to fix.

Alison

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Colin Clark <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

   Nice patch! Just a quick question about it...

   While our bSpace Section Info page is just a mockup, it's based on
   a real user interface in Sakai. Given this, I'm wondering if this
   issue might be something we should also share upstream with the
   Sakai community? It's likely a really easy change to the Section
   Info tools's markup.

   Colin


   On 11-May-09, at 1:44 PM, Eli Cochran wrote:

       cool, thanks. If you would assigned that bug to me, I'll
       review and check in the patch.

       - Eli

       On May 11, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Alison Benjamin wrote:

           Hi,

           Last week I conducted user testing with 2 JAWS users on
           the bSpace implementation of Inline Edit. Here is the wiki
           page with results (please note the wiki page is a work in
           progress):

           
http://wiki.fluidproject.org/display/fluid/Simple+Text+Inline+Edit+User+Testing+-+Round+3+Results

           A bug that came up is that when you tab to the 'remove'
           button to remove a row, JAWS reads "true", which is not
           meaningful to the user.

           Here is a patch that gives each button the title "remove
           this row".

           http://issues.fluidproject.org/browse/FLUID-2651

           Thanks,
           Alison

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