Reed:
Thanks for this, I am going to try and find a copy of this book, and if you have sum
to spare,
I'd love to see the colored poetry.
I'd love to seeeeeeeeeeee
the colored poetreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Reed Altemus wrote:
> Yes, I did read the poem about the colored vowels. I have been coloring my poetry
>too, if
> I get motivated I'll send you some. Emmett Williams always envisioned a poetry
>printed in
> bright colors and on certain occasions he did just that: attatching rubber stamps
>making
> the phrase "when this you see remember me" and letting everyone who visited the show
>print
> the message with rubber stamps on the wall in bright colored inks. I have an example
>of it
> in a book called "Schemes & Variations" (Hansjorg Mayer). It's a very cool book and
>my
> copy happens to be signed but since the cover was put on upside down I got it cheap.
>
> RA
>
> Patricia wrote:
>
> > Hmmmm, I'm even more out of my element here, as a visual artist, I'm familiar with
> > Rimbaud from the Surrealist movement and his association of vowels with colors:
> >
> > Arthur Rimbaud, Une Saison en Enfer
> >
> > "I invented the colors of the vowels!�A black, E white, I red, O
>blue, U
> > green�I made rules for the form and movement of each consonant, and, and with
> > instinctive rhythms, I flattered myself that I had created a poetic language
> > accessible, some day, to all the senses. "
> >
> > Probably inspired John Baldessari's dots.
> >
> > What I've read of him has been read speedily, sped read, ed., as it's just too much
> > teeny masculine angst for me (uh, oh, probly' asking for it here). And what I have
> > read has been many years past my teeny feminine angst state, so I have no basis for
> > comparison.
> >
> > However, what goes around comes around, ( or vice versa ) and, Brion Gysin cut 'im
>up.
> >
> > http://www.uni.edu/~keeley/reality/topy-gysin.html
> >
> > Ooops, and he was rejected by Dada. I mean the movement. Ohhhhhhnooooooo.
> >
> > And, quite frankly since I am venting here, I absolutely detested Antoine de
> > Saint-Exup�ry's "The Little Prince" and wrote a review so scathing for an English
>Lit.
> > class that the professor took it off his list. I wish I still had that review -
> > something about masturbating in the linen closet...
> >
> > Perhaps I had better get back to bed with Marcel now......and Rrose and Vladimir.
> >
> > ;-)
> > PK
> >
> > P.S. A well written post, Dave, my hasty readings of him just didn't make me
>want to
> > pursue.
> >
> > Reed Altemus wrote:
> >
> > > David Baptiste Chirot wrote:
> > >
> > > > Discovering Rimbaud at age thirteen colored all my teen age years
> > > > --back then, the barricades of 1968 seemed like Rimbuad's 1870 baricades
> > > > revisited--
> > > > as i got older, thought Rimbaud one of the few truly great poets
> > > > of childhood--
> > > > his poetry is not seperate from "Rimbuad 2"--the life--yet
> > > > prefigures it--
> > > > the life reenacted much of the poetry--
> > > > Rimbuad, like his father, had a sense of miiitary discipline in
> > > > all he did--"a long reasoned dergangement of the senses" not so much
> > > > different from his later fanatical attempts at science, discovery,
> > > > exploration, commerce, asceticism--in "exotic lands"--
> > > > Sol is right that the dramatic impact of reading changes with
> > > > getting older--
> > > > Reading Rimbaud now, after thirty years of doing so, i find him
> > > > actually more "realist" than "romantic"--
> > > > His vision of Revolution in all senses: "Christmas on
> > > > Earth"--"it has to be reinvented"--his ideas on the social, the role of
> > > > women, the idea of progress and technology, the use of language, of
> > > > altered states--etc--the mix of the "primitive" and the "modern"--are all
> > > > ever relevant--
> > > > The power of Rimbaud's work is the sense of "first time
> > > > seeing"--the wonder & violence of a child's seeing--and the attempt to
> > > > bring this energy into language, no matter how worn out--
> > > > For me, Rimbaud's work continues to be explosive--both the writing
> > > > and the life, which are not seperate, but equal parts of a tension among
> > > > art and action, anarchy & self discipline, which Rimbaud posed in a more
> > > > radical sense than most--
> > > > A very interesting book on Rimbaud's life "after poetry" is
> > > > SOMEBODY ELSE by Charles Nicholl (Chicago: University of Chicago Press,
> > > > 1997)
> > > > reverie & revolution--the small child dreaming of Mississippis
> > > > while gazing at a gray puddle in a street in Europe--
> > > > Rimbaud is one of the great documentary writers--and his
> > > > documentation included all states of being that he could embrace--
> > > > he attempted facts in areas most often left to fabulists and his
> > > > realism was not to be deluded by his own fabulsms--
> > > > though his own facts were often outdone, in "later life"--by those
> > > > of others--(is Rimbaud a moral--or a moralist--or the two?--as ever, he
> > > > poses questions . . . )
> > > >
> > > > Rimbaud is read differently when one is a teen ager--as most books
> > > > are--it takes time to be aware of his questions--
> > > > Few ever posed them as harshly--
> > > > or presented childhood as realistically--
> > > >
> > > > --dave baptiste chirot
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > Your defense of Rimbaud is well-taken. I've only recently read him. My only view
> > > was to learn something from it. To try it out. I mean what the hell IS required
> > > reading these days. Damned if I know! I just hobble along from reference to
> > > reference hoping I'm following some path with my reading. I probably shouldn't
>read
> > > at all considering that I'm writing at the same time. Having been a musician for
> > > most of my life (completely self taught and never learned how to read music) I am
> > > very attentive to the sounds of words and now this is what appeals to me as
> > > material for poetry. I've just read Postface/Jefferson's Birthday by Dick Higgins
> > > which has some wonderful information about intermedia and poetry in it.
> > >
> > > It's plain I am out of my depth though in this thread so I am signing off.
> > >
> > > RA
