> by the way, does anyone know if the programs that andrew culver developed for
> john cage are available anywhere?? any leads on this or similar programs for the
> mac would be great.

Its dos and produces lines of numbers. you can find it somewhere at
http://www.rz.uni-frankfurt.de/~recktenw/

Its iching.exe or somethjing like that. 

Hope this page is still online,

H.

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