Terrence writes;

Finite and Infinite games. This is a book that i have read. It gave me
some meaning and insight into my creative processes and evidential
objects. It could be just the book to understand what work and art
activity can mean and what things gives meaning to a creative life. You
are what you do or what you do can give direction or perhaps meaning to
your art. Is your life your own when you work? Does it detract from your
life when you work to create a social environment, give your family
prestige or meaning to your existence or just some money to sustain you?

Do you work/ do art things/ recreate because you love it?  What is
necessary what is not?  Are each acts of devotion?  To what degree?

Personally my current business gave me a foot hold into my own studio.
Art could not provide me with it so fast.  The exchange of my art
activities for such utility is/ was not in place.   That is to say it my
art work is not valuable.  It and the time spent at doing it just has not
been put into the principle of exchange.  It does not fall into many
peoples ways of living and sustaining themselves and perhaps enters their
lives on a different level of envaluement.  What value is time if it is
for mere exchange for money and prestige?   What value is an art that
aspires to the same utility.  When your work is art, is work then play?

Perhaps Flux is not for mere exchange.   Flux just is evidence of
creative activities.  Fluxlist is play. I create because I can when I
can.   I create when i make the time available to do so.    If you pulled
out a sketch book at work or took a photo of a desk, just as much time as
idle chat about the ball game, would it not define you would it not defy
the moment it took to do it.  Is it play?  Would it defy the time someone
is buying from you?   That productive moment would stand the test of time
as it is evidence by the sketch you would later hold.   It defies time as
it exists despite the constrains of time and how you value and use it in
exchange.  This is due to or even despite the fact you brought it forth
in the first place.  I does not matter when or how it occurs.  If you do
it, it is done.  You took the moment.  Whatever happens after is beside
the point of the act.   The art act enters in a new phase if it is
combined with other acts of exchange or collaboration, playfulness or
cultural acts.   It is what is evident that perception beholds.  Without
it what do you have?   Your time is your own.  You form things from it.
It is limited so  you try to use it wisely.  Play is as wise as working.

Artnatural

Owen Smith wrote:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED],.Internet writes:
>
> >I probably shouldn't post the entire A._S.L.O.T.H. text. It's quite
> >long,
> >but I can send it directly to whoever is interested. (As a MS Word
> >attachment preferably)
>
> Aaron - can you send me a copy of the entire doc at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> thanks. . . .
>
> On the subject of Fluxus and play this is a very important point both
> for Fluxus as a historical entity and for those who seek to either
> perpetuate it or expand/extend it. One of my favorite books on this
> subject, that is on play, is the text by Peter Carse titled Finite and
> Infinite Games - it is available in a 4.00 paperback edition and a
> very quick read that is full of lots of thought provoking and
> insightful ideas - and I highly recommend it to all.
>
> Owen

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