secret fluxus

thank you for an interesting and eloquent response.

re:
"Discussions of history, criticism, or theory
occupy a tiny fraction of list volume - significantly less than 5%. List
members seem to consider the suggestion that we discuss these kinds of
issues from time to time a bad idea. We gather that this has been the case
on Fluxlist in the past."

I don't think that this is viewed as a bad idea, however problems have
arisen due to the sheer nature of fluxus. a major problem, i feel, is that
due to an inherent need for classification fluxus has become something that
it never actually was.  this is a point that i have made before.  in my
opinion fluxus can not be viewed as a single entity, a group, a movement
etc.  i have no real idea myself as to how it should be considered, (i find
this hard to put into words - i have tried but i just end up confusing
myself!).  at times we have a tendency to treat fluxus as as this nice
comfortable 'idea' that we all like, when i reality it involves/ed a network
of very different artists, working in very different fields, often having
very little, if anything in common at all. it could be true to say that in
the beginning there was a sharing if ideas and sensibilities, especially
under maciunas' 'control'.  this however did not last as the individual
artists developed their own work and moved further form maciunas' ideals.
what unites these artists under the fluxus banner?  what gives one the right
to use fluxus to describe their work and another not? why is their such a
scrabble to claim ownership of this word?  these are questions that intrigue
me.

perhaps the reason that many fluxlisters are reluctant to get into
discussions of history, criticism etc is that often all we hear is the same
thing, repeated over and over again.  i admit, i have not come up with
anything new myself and am more than willing to listen.

also, many of the participants of the fluxlist are artists in their own
right, working in a very wide range of disciplines.  they create, perhaps
their energies are focused elsewhere, i know mine certainly are.  many of us
have read widely around fluxus, others are concerned with certain areas or
artists, many listmembers have been involved in recurring fluxus
discussions - perhaps it's just that many of us are waiting for something
new to pop up.  i personally dont see the point of rehashing old arguments,
we can refer to the archives for that.
the influence of 'fluxus ideals' on contemporary practise is more
interesting to me as it brings up the 'what is fluxus?' question, which i've
already stated - i haven't seen an answer which satisfies me as yet
(hopefully, owen, bertrand et al can join in here)

alan



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