ties to the academic system, being?
what constitutes academia?
if there are those who have no ties to  academia  , does
  that disclude them from participating?
if  academia  means nonsense then i have to agree.
i have taken time off since the dissolving of the Fluxus related
 sites to reflect on what this list is for, why am i (or others)
 still attached to this list, and maybe why the  Ancients  never
 seemed to take interest in the whole shebang.

Chemical Brothers "Galvanize"
Barnes and Noble

myself having a less than illustriuous career in the  higher
      education system, i have learned some things:

   school is not all that it is cracked up to be.
   the majority of people i have talked to that have
       degrees in varying stages and types, all seem
       to think that they are above those that don't.
   the majority of people i have talked to that have
       degrees in varying stages and types, all seem
       to think that since they have a degree, they
       know more about EVERYTHING than those who
       don't.
(exceptions yes, but norm, no)
   as far as further academia goes, the more learned
      and mostly tenured folks have either washed them-
      selves clean of the  I know more than you  crap, or
      are noticeably apologetic towards their youth and
      silliness where they had such pretense and
      laughably pompous attitudes towards the  unlearned .
   just because someone does not hold a piece of paper in
        their hand, does not mean that they are idiots.
(now you sill say,  I never thought that.   then why even
bring academics up?)
   i will bet that many people you admire have never been to
     school.  some, not even high school.
   present day art school students are not the revolutionaries,
           or the ones that move gears.  they operate in a well
           defined crib of  modernity  and affectation, subscribing
           to the business and taking their place in line with knife
           in tow, and Hollywood cheerfulness.  burying their
           heroes in their collectively produced shit, hoping that
           noone will notice.
(take a trip to Hope, Idaho...he would have knocked your silly
stylings to dirt.)
   as for myself, i can always go back to school and finish the
      30 credits or so left, but i have gained much more
      in not even relating to school, save for my best friend
      working on his doctorate in Archaeology.  the courses
      that i have taken that have meant the most were a Gypsy
      Language and Folklore course that at the time was the only
      one taught besides one at Sorbonne, a Parageogrpahy class
      that had us as a final project to create our own world, and
      and Introduction to the Internet in 93 (92?) that was the
      only one taught at all, in the days where Sun systems
      were the workhorses, and everything was telnet and ftp,
      with sites closing at midnight and opening in the morning.
   do i take pride in the above?  damn straight.  does that show
      the power of further schooling?  hell yeah.  but that was
      3 courses out of many.  the rest was learned by resistance
      and acceptance, going hungry and going bankrupt, making
      friends and inviting enemies.
("Go to the library to learn.  Go to school (college) to get laid")

there are some folks here that i love talking to and exchanging thoughts
and ideas with, and some that i hold as heroes of mine and
ones that i would love to collaborate with in depth. i will be
asking for the email/snail mail addresses of you all in the next
few days, and i hope you respond. that will be the end of my
involvement with the list and with Fluxus as this list has seemingly
defined it. there are others that i really don't care to deal with, or know
what they are up to. too much self-promotion and silly poems
that clutter my box.
(Sticks and stones... for everyone)


the Fluxus elders may have not contributed to the list/movement if they
   indeed took a look at what is going on.  the name of this list
   should be  A Collective Take On What It Might Look Like To Publish
                In Wonderland.

take care of yourselves and give dope a try...

brian.







Reply via email to