Allzu Klug ist dumm.
[German proverb---Too smart is dumb.]
Okay, now I have a question. Who are "the ancients"
referred to in this post? Is this in code? Are we
speaking about gods here...or older, graying mail
artists (...who only think their God!!!) [Joke,
people..&[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a joke...it is actually the
punch line of one of may favorite jokes about Herbert
von Karajan, the now deceased ex-conductor of the
Vienna Philharmonic.
Dawn Amato
--- brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ties to the academic system, being?
> what constitutes academia?
> if there are those who have no ties to academia ,
> does
> that disclude them from participating?
> if academia means nonsense then i have to agree.
> i have taken time off since the dissolving of the
> Fluxus related
> sites to reflect on what this list is for, why am
> i (or others)
> still attached to this list, and maybe why the
> Ancients never
> seemed to take interest in the whole shebang.
>
> Chemical Brothers "Galvanize"
> Barnes and Noble
>
> myself having a less than illustriuous career in the
> higher
> education system, i have learned some things:
>
> school is not all that it is cracked up to be.
> the majority of people i have talked to that
> have
> degrees in varying stages and types, all
> seem
> to think that they are above those that
> don't.
> the majority of people i have talked to that
> have
> degrees in varying stages and types, all
> seem
> to think that since they have a degree, they
> know more about EVERYTHING than those who
> don't.
> (exceptions yes, but norm, no)
> as far as further academia goes, the more
> learned
> and mostly tenured folks have either washed
> them-
> selves clean of the I know more than you
> crap, or
> are noticeably apologetic towards their youth
> and
> silliness where they had such pretense and
> laughably pompous attitudes towards the
> unlearned .
> just because someone does not hold a piece of
> paper in
> their hand, does not mean that they are
> idiots.
> (now you sill say, I never thought that. then why
> even
> bring academics up?)
> i will bet that many people you admire have
> never been to
> school. some, not even high school.
> present day art school students are not the
> revolutionaries,
> or the ones that move gears. they
> operate in a well
> defined crib of modernity and
> affectation, subscribing
> to the business and taking their place
> in line with knife
> in tow, and Hollywood cheerfulness.
> burying their
> heroes in their collectively produced
> shit, hoping that
> noone will notice.
> (take a trip to Hope, Idaho...he would have knocked
> your silly
> stylings to dirt.)
> as for myself, i can always go back to school
> and finish the
> 30 credits or so left, but i have gained much
> more
> in not even relating to school, save for my
> best friend
> working on his doctorate in Archaeology. the
> courses
> that i have taken that have meant the most
> were a Gypsy
> Language and Folklore course that at the time
> was the only
> one taught besides one at Sorbonne, a
> Parageogrpahy class
> that had us as a final project to create our
> own world, and
> and Introduction to the Internet in 93 (92?)
> that was the
> only one taught at all, in the days where Sun
> systems
> were the workhorses, and everything was
> telnet and ftp,
> with sites closing at midnight and opening in
> the morning.
> do i take pride in the above? damn straight.
> does that show
> the power of further schooling? hell yeah.
> but that was
> 3 courses out of many. the rest was learned
> by resistance
> and acceptance, going hungry and going
> bankrupt, making
> friends and inviting enemies.
> ("Go to the library to learn. Go to school
> (college) to get laid")
>
> there are some folks here that i love talking to and
> exchanging thoughts
> and ideas with, and some that i hold as heroes
> of mine and
> ones that i would love to collaborate with in
> depth. i will be
> asking for the email/snail mail addresses of
> you all in the next
> few days, and i hope you respond. that will
> be the end of my
> involvement with the list and with Fluxus as
> this list has seemingly
> defined it.
> there are others that i really don't care to deal
> with, or know
> what they are up to. too much self-promotion
> and silly poems
> that clutter my box.
> (Sticks and stones... for everyone)
>
> the Fluxus elders may have not contributed to the
> list/movement if they
> indeed took a look at what is going on. the
> name of this list
> should be A Collective Take On What It Might
> Look Like To Publish
> In Wonderland.
>
> take care of yourselves and give dope a try...
>
> brian.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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