On 1427 RabiÊ» I 05, at 3:41 PM, Kamen Nedev wrote:

Recently, I have noted a marked transition from channels such as mailing lists and wikis to blogs. Just recently, Fluxlist, another mainstay in experimental art, poetry, and debate, openned up its own blog. Not to say that most of the members of this and other lists have long been growing their own blogs.

This is really no more than a change of channel (or, maybe, a multiplication of channels), not of media, but, still, the mode of communication of the mailing list, the wiki, and the blog are, respectively, very different.

If, in the case of mailing lists, we can talk of a bazaar-like communal chatter, with an ever-changing climate of signal-to-noise ratios, heated discussions, flame-wars, trolls and lurkers, the wiki provides a slightly more content-centred approach (the trolling and flame-baiting are still there, of course, but, at least, there is a clear topic of discussion), it is content- rather than author-based.

Weblogging, on the other hand, seems to obey a principle more akin to a moderated dialogue. I blog - you comment, and maybe I comment on your comment, etc. Information is not centred in nodes, as in the wiki, but is instead spread around like dust particles all over the web, from blog to blog.

Often, when searching for the original article or post which has prompted some discussion, I suddenly realise that this is a mistake: in the Blogosphere, there is no original, zero-degree content. It is the posting and re-posting of content, its continuous de- and recontextualisation, that really informs the channel.

And, unless I'm mistaken, most online discourse is moving steadily in this direction.


I agree with Kamen. One of the slightly frustrating things about this list
has always been the lack of ability to post anything media based on it -
even simple HTML - which, some of you oldtimers remember was a big
bug up a few people's noses in the early days...and this is a list based on an art movement with contributions made by...you know...ARTISTS! (mostly). I had always thought it better to have the Fluxlist on some kind of community board that you could put together using the proper software - i.e. http:// tinyurl.com/e4jxy which is responsible for boards like the Organissimo Jazz Forum (http://tinyurl.com/omm35) or the forum on the band "The Fall" (http://tinyurl.com/qkybz) as well as many others.

BUT, I think that this is nice step outdoors - we talk HERE and create THERE.


Rod






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