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very interesting report
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Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 12:50
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Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Book 2 - #100 -
9/24/2004 11:07 AM
In my opinion, any unsold artworks are assets that have not yet
been converted to cash or other comodities. Then there are copyright,
reproduction incomes possible. So I don't have any expiration dates on any
artworks by me. Everybody else in almost every other field considers the
ongoing value of their efforts. Why artists do not value what they do is a
mystery to me and if one does not value his one work then -of course - it is
hard to consider expending effort in creating a market for it. But hey, all
the better for me, less glut in the market. But to be sure, the more artists
needing and seeking a market, the more a market develops. Maybe we need to
joinly do a campaigne encouraging people to buy more art products. You know
like the milk industry. Got Art? Fluxus artists should not be encouraging the
average idiot to make his own art we should be encouraging the average idiot
to buy our art at low cost 'popular' prices. Sell them art kits in a box! Why
not? We should all develop a fluxbooth and send each other fluxjunk to sell to
Johnny Q Public; unlimited editions of stuff. unlimited collections of stuff!
Stuff, stuff everywhere. That was one of the original impulses of fluxus
wasn't it?
A buddy invited me to go to a "by invitation only" Peter Max
exhibition yesterday here in fort worth. It was a hoot. Peter Max has about a
dozen roadees that set up a constantly traveling carnaval of Peter Max art
junk ranging in price from about 2,000.00 to 20,000.00 or so. 40 exhibitions a
year! He's doing the Thomas Kincade thing of making lithos and then slopping
some details on them and selling them as "mixed media" original art. Then
there he is, a guy that looks like Ben Stiller's dad, talking to 'collectors'.
Meanwhile the roadees are working the crowd trying to catch that impulse buyer
overcome by the proximity to pop fame. There are some little paintings
on canvas and some on paper, all framed and the peter max book. When you start
looking at it everything, he's got about 10 or 15 images that he paints over
and over again without too much variation. It is kind of like a fluxus artist
performing the same 15 scores over and over again. things like: Paint a
sunset, Make a Print of that sunset, Paint on the print of the sunset,
repeat above with an angel, a guy with an umbrella, etc. Frame everything in
black, sell for uncomfortably high prices. only respond to potential marks
with statements like, "You should buy it becuase you love it", "You shouldn't
buy art for investment but for the love of it", "How much can you
afford?", "That's my favorite one too", etc. It was
wild.
Cecil
http://neoplasticism.com
Rod
Stasick wrote:
Returning to Cecil...
The physical dependance drives me cRaZy - mostly with music
-
my mind telling me that there's more than enuf sound on the web and the
non-physical elsewhere to keep my fascinations ringing for the eternities
after the honeymoon, but as stuff goes out the back door in almost trapezoid
strictness, the squall-fed label profiteers paratroop onto my front lawn and
queue up at the front, BUT, it soon becomes "0"s and "1"s - same with words,
documents, and bits of detritus found in the garden (like this old "Pop
Rocks" wrapper - both sides):
They become jumping off points for higher elements of creative
work,
but not necessarily in physical form.
So, the question really becomes: To you, how important is the
physicality of artwork - that you need to have it around you? It seems
to me that these large scale works can't really be turned into "0"s and "1"s
(except thru documentation, I suppose).
Do those of you who create physical artworks on a larger scale
(canvas, sculpture) have the problem of having too much creat(ed/ive)
work. around the studio? Yes, of course, you want to sell stuff, but
what of the stuff that you can't sell? Is there a "past-it's-sell-by-date"
at some time where it's documented then discarded?
Rod
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Now playing: Agitation Free - Sahara City
On 1427 Rabiʻ I 18, at 8:37 AM, Cecil Touchon wrote:
Book 2 - #100 - 9/24/2004 11:07 AM
An Intelligence so Intriguing Everyone
Listens
So, a few days ago,
I came to the
conclusion
I simply have too much stuff
and need to rid
myself of it at thoroughly discounted prices.
I am consumed with collecting
highly difficult to
find pieces [of text]
Needless to say, I was doing my
best
[to have a workable set]
but I do not know how likely that
is.
I am simply foolishly excited over the prospect
[of providing] you
with some entertainment.::Bows::
I realized, a tad
too late,
I spent almost my entire paycheck on
Small [poetic]
imperfections which fill me with shame.
Another little tidbit that might be
amusing…
on Tuesday night,
shut off the inane chattering of your mind for a
moment
give it the old college try.
[Don't worry if
your] not learned in such things.
I knew I had
forgotten something;
a more involving plot
I was not even aware
of this rule!
um, opps.
so much for that experiment eh?
I have tried several
different things
nothing has worked of yet.
Oh
fiddlesticks,
does anyone have any advice for poor
me?
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