I don't have the answers for you, Al. Might want to reach out to some companies and get an estimate. We got two in our home from Crossfield. I know Airquip and Oaks also sell/install them. Also, there are longer term savings/reductions in overhead to consider. Maybe the collective wants to look around for grants to help offset costs of solar and/or heat pumps? And I'm not suggesting you do it all at once! One project at a time. It's only getting warmer... :) :( Ted-
PS. they are not window units. see attached photo. They are appearing is stores around Rochester. -- Theodore D. Forsyth, MSHe/Him Ph.D. Student | Department of Sociology at Syracuse UniversityMaxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs([email protected]) "Those running around with guns are not going to be the winners." –Rev. Willie Cotton "Revolutionary action is not aform of self-sacrifice, a grim dedication to doing whatever it takes to achievea future world of freedom. It is the defiant insistence on acting as if one isalready free." –David Graeber “If you have come here to help me, you are wasting your time. But if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together.” –Lilla Watson "Revolution is but thought carriedinto action." –Emma Goldman On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 09:54:24 PM EDT, Al Brundage <[email protected]> wrote: Do you know how large the units they have are, and also what is the size/capacity of their room as compared to ours? Do these units fit in the windows or do they have to be professionally installed? One thing I've already verified is the two 220 volt outlets upstairs work. It looks like the Elks had AC's up there because the outlets are right next to the windows. We have discussed AC at some meetings but heat pumps might be an option. They don't cost a whole lot more. It would eliminate the need for the gas heater, or we could use it for backup. When I had Brendan (my engineer friend) look over the building he said probably two 2 ton units would be needed for that room. Estimated $30k for solar but that was before the Covid. Meanwhile we have the fans as a stop gap. They were donated so they aren't costing us anything and use very little power. On 6/14/24 9:34 PM, [email protected] wrote: Might I suggest that it might be worthwhile to consider getting two cold air heat pumps? They have 4 of the big ones at a children's theatre production company in the auditorium theatre and they do a great job of cooling stuff off. In the winter, they can pump warm air in. Also, because they are electric, they don't need gas and are very soft noise wise compared to the gas blower on the second floor. Budget for all solar across the roof, and you could make the whole thing sustainable! Clearly, the issue with the AC unit, is that the giant fans + windows are not keeping things cool for patrons. My .02. Ted- -- Theodore D. Forsyth, MS He/Him Ph.D. Student | Department of Sociology at Syracuse University Maxwell School of Citizenship and Public Affairs ([email protected]) "Those running around with guns are not going to be the winners." –Rev. Willie Cotton "Revolutionary action is not a form of self-sacrifice, a grim dedication to doing whatever it takes to achieve a future world of freedom. It is the defiant insistence on acting as if one is already free." –David Graeber “If you have come here to help me, you are wasting your time. But if you have come because your liberation is bound up with mine, then let us work together.” –Lilla Watson "Revolution is but thought carried into action." –Emma Goldman On Friday, June 14, 2024 at 05:13:39 PM EDT, Al Brundage <[email protected]> wrote: Probably only since the NA meeting which ended at 2. I think we need to tell them it needs to go. It is way too small for that room and isn't going to do anything but run up our electricity bill, especially if they can't be responsible for shutting it off. Plus the falling hazard it presents. The fans don't suck much power but still they should be shut off when everyone leaves. On 6/14/24 5:10 PM, Mario Savastano wrote: Also, our favorite AC machine (and fans) were running when I came in for rehearsal last night at 6:30pm. No idea how long they had been on, but it seemed there was no one in just before us and no reason for them to be running. Mario On Fri, Jun 14, 2024 at 4:53 PM Al Brundage <[email protected]> wrote: Just a heads up I've been fixing some stuff around the Squirrel. The big wall fan closest to the stage has been un-mickeymoused. It now works on all speeds not just low. Replaced the switch. I purchased a new outlet and cover plate for the one under the window on the north wall closest to the stage. It's now completely dead probably because of NA's AC. But it was bad way before that. I can't replace it alone because I need someone upstairs to let me know when the power goes off. No idea which breaker it is on. Planning on doing it while Scott is there. 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