Hi all,

Over the last 4 years, I too have stumbled upon "the untold story of oop",
VPRI, and a number of other "untold" histories of software and efforts to
make it more open-ended & human-oriented. I can tell you that FONC is not
the only attempt at such a thing.

If I'm not the only one, maybe we can benefit from sharing what we've found
(or collaborate on projects or ideas or resources), rather than just
limiting to the COLA stuff.

I myself have taken from many sources (like the ones listed below) to
develop my own user-oriented software innovation

Is anyone interested?

Examples:
Intentional Domain Workbench,
Meta Programming System,
Lively Kernel,
https://youtu.be/1O8PwkXfDJg
,
(and the following are all on worrydream.com)
The Humane Representation of Thought,
Drawing Dynamic Visualizations,
Learnable Programming

Thanks,
- Dan

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017, 4:20 PM Eugene Wallingford <walli...@cs.uni.edu>
wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 02:39:08PM -0700, Yoshiki Ohshima wrote:
> > There will be some more news in the near future, but I can tell you
> > that many of us moved to a Lab called Communications Design Group and
> > then to HARC at Y Combinator Research.  Yes, the focus had shifted
> > that these points.
>
>      The web home is: http://harc.ycr.org  The set of researchers
>      is impressive and interesting.  I'm familiar with the GP
>      project, and several others are worth of a deeper looker.
>      I'm especially interested in the tutoring system.
>
> ---- Eugene
>
> > On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:47 PM,  <joel.jakubo...@cantab.net> wrote:
> > > You leave the rather intriguing comment that
> > >
> > >> VPRIs focus and efforts have shifted and we will no longer host or
> > >> support this list.
> > >
> > > What have the focus and efforts of VPRI shifted to? Is this related to
> the
> > > completion of the STEPS project or is that old news?
> > >
> > > I only found out about FoNC, VPRI, heck even the untold story of OOP,
> less
> > > than a year ago, and the stuff you're all working on is incredible.
> It's
> > > pretty criminal how little-known it is, but I joined because I believe
> in
> > > what you're doing and want to see what's going on.
> > >
> > > It's a shame that there's not been much activity in 2016 and 17 - but
> from
> > > my limited expeditions into the depths of the archives, there seems to
> be
> > > a real wealth of useful info that isn't present anywhere else. So huge
> > > thanks to Kenny Friedman for setting up the new list and archive
> mirror;
> > > it'd be a bit sad to join a group just as it's about to disband! :)
> > >
> > > -Joel
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, July 25, 2017 00:16, Kim Rose wrote:
> > >> Dear ?fonc? community,
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> This is to notify you that this mailing list (?fonc?) will be retired
> and
> > >> made inactive at the end of this month.
> > >>
> > >> VPRIs focus and efforts have shifted and we will no longer host or
> > >> support this list.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for your past interest, support and participation.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Kim Rose
> > >> Viewpoints Research Institute
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
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