Dan Amelang skrev 2010-02-28 23:38:
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:50 AM, Reuben Thomas<[email protected]> wrote:
Think of a software project as like Plato's model of the soul as a
charioteer with two horses, one immortal and one mortal, only without
the goal of reaching heaven. The mortal horse is the imperatives of
the real world: developers, money, users, releases and so on, while
the immortal horse represents elegance, simplicity, performance,
design perfection. A successful project usually manages to keep the
two horses in relative harmony, making something good and practical.
VPRI seems to have started off with just the immortal horse
This could well be. How else should an ambitious research project start off?
Research in general involves incubating fragile ideas that might not
be ready to face what you call the "real world" (assuming earth is
more real than heaven :)
Money, users, releases, etc.
In other words, I think you have it the wrong way round: it is
precisely by caring about one's public that one fixes the rough edges
One man's rough edge is another's great idea in the making :)
I think it's scandalous that a publically-funded non-secret project
does not have far stricter requirements for public engagement than are
apparent here.
Scandalous! :) Actually, in my experience, many publically (sic)
-funded projects don't have public repositories that are updated in
real-time (like many of ours are). So the scandal may be more
widespread than we initially suspected!
I would add that the reason I care is because I have a great deal of
respect for Ian Piumarta in particular: I was blown away by his
Virtual Virtual Machine work when I went to INRIA Rocquencourt in
1999, greatly impressed by his code generation work on Smalltalk (at
least that did get out the door), and really excited when I first came
across COLA. This stuff should be out there!
Ian does do great stuff. And much of his work is out there:
http://piumarta.com/software/
And there is more coming. But please consider what I said about
incubating great ideas.
Dan
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Hi
The other research that are based on the Moshi image equally
interesting, but the Moshi image is nowhere to be downloaded so
one can only read the code and papers about it.
http://tinlizzie.org/updates/exploratory/updates/
Karl
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