Memorizing Pi is a dumb old trick, like ripping a phone book in half. I can 
memorize Pi, I mean if I wanted to spend my time that way, but it's all a 
dodge: I'm just ripping a phone book in half, and the whole trick is to twist 
it just so that the entire heroic thing only ever happens over a few pages at a 
time, but quickly enough that people think you know how to do something really 
special. 

I saw one of this guy's talks once - or at least, I think so, wasn't he at 
Rails Conf? Anyway: I think dude's talent is a form of stagecraft. Can we 
please blow this guy off and get back to inventing the future ???????

On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:51 PM, BGB <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 7/17/2011 2:33 PM, Craig Latta wrote:
>>      That talk would have been a whole lot better if he had grounded it
>> with a discussion of how constraints are good for creativity. It's how
>> he should have spent the time where he went on about memorizing Pi for
>> no good reason...
> 
> if memorizing pie is a measure of programmer status, it likely puts down 
> those of us who only know 10s of digits of Pi...
> 
> granted, it is probably not that terribly important to know far more digits 
> of pie than can be reasonably represented in a sanely-sized floating point 
> constant.
> 
> 
> funny though is I don't really believe in taking things away from languages, 
> rather just providing ideally clean and concise constructs to take over the 
> role of more hairy constructs.
> 
> for example, if/while/for/... don't mean goto shouldn't exist in a language 
> or should be branded as "evil" as a result, rather they provide better 
> alternatives such that things like goto are more of a "break glass in case of 
> emergency" feature (or can be taken as a sign that, when one finds themselves 
> using it, then likely things have already gone fairly far south as far as 
> this particular code is concerned...).
> 
> 
> so, I think it is more about providing better and cleaner alternatives to 
> common problems than in trying to take things away.
> 
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