How is that a theory? Sounds like a design principle.

On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 9:42 PM, John Carlson <yottz...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's my theory: reduce arguing with the compiler to minimum.  This means
> reducing programmers' syntax errors.  Only add syntax to reduce errors (the
> famous FORTRAN do loop error).  The syntax that creates errors should be
> removed.
> On Apr 20, 2013 11:18 PM, "John Carlson" <yottz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think it's better to work from examples, ala JUnit and end-user
>> programming than come up with a theory that solves nothing.  One can
>> compare EGGG to GDL in scope and expressiveness.  One interesting part of
>> gaming is arguing about rules.  What computer systems do that?
>> On Apr 20, 2013 11:09 PM, "John Carlson" <yottz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Practice or practical?  Maybe there's space for practical theory,
>>> instead of relying on things that don't exist.  Why do we distinguish
>>> practice from theory?  Seems like a fallacy there.
>>> On Apr 20, 2013 10:51 PM, "David Barbour" <dmbarb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> only in practice
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 8:23 PM, John Carlson <yottz...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Take my word for it, theory comes down to Monday Night Football on
>>>>> ESPN.
>>>>> On Apr 20, 2013 10:13 PM, "John Carlson" <yottz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that concepts in some sense transcend the universe.  Are
>>>>>> there more digits in pi than there are atoms  in the universe?  I guess 
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> are asking if there are transcendental volumes which are bigger or more
>>>>>> complex than the universe.  If the universe contains the transcendental 
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> symbols then how many transcendental symbols are there?  I think you 
>>>>>> still
>>>>>> run into Russell's Paradox.
>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2013 9:15 PM, "Simon Forman" <forman.si...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/20/13, John Carlson <yottz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Do you need one symbol for the number infinity and another for
>>>>>>> denoting
>>>>>>> > that a set is inifinite?  Or do you just reason about the size of
>>>>>>> the set?
>>>>>>> > Is there a difference between a set that is countably infinite and
>>>>>>> one that
>>>>>>> > isn't countable?  I barely know Russell's paradox... you're ahead
>>>>>>> of me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, for what it's worth, quoting from Meguire's 2007 "Boundary
>>>>>>> Algebra: A Simple Notation for Boolean Algebra and the Truth
>>>>>>> Functors":
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Let U be the universal set, a,b∈U, and ∅ be the null set. Then the
>>>>>>> columns headed by “Sets” show how the algebra of sets and the pa are
>>>>>>> equivalent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Table 4-2. The 10 Nontrivial Binary Connectives (Functors).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Name            Logic  Sets BA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alternation      a∨b   a∪b  ab
>>>>>>> Conditional      a→b   a⊆b  (a)b
>>>>>>> Converse         a←b   a⊇b  a(b)
>>>>>>> Conjunction      a∧b   a∩b  ((a)(b))
>>>>>>>                        ___
>>>>>>> NOR              a↓b   a∪b   (ab)
>>>>>>>                        ___
>>>>>>> Sheffer stroke   a|b   a∩b  (a)(b)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Biconditional    a↔b   a⊆b⊆a  (((a)b)(a(b))) -or- ((a)(b))(ab)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Apologies if the Unicode characters got mangled!)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check out http://www.markability.net/sets.htm also.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know much about set theory but I think the "Universal" set
>>>>>>> stands for the set of everything, no?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> ~Simon
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The history of mankind for the last four centuries is rather like
>>>>>>> that of
>>>>>>> an imprisoned sleeper, stirring clumsily and uneasily while the
>>>>>>> prison that
>>>>>>> restrains and shelters him catches fire, not waking but
>>>>>>> incorporating the
>>>>>>> crackling and warmth of the fire with ancient and incongruous
>>>>>>> dreams, than
>>>>>>> like that of a man consciously awake to danger and opportunity."
>>>>>>> --H. P. Wells, "A Short History of the World"
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