Hi Juan,

Yes, that is some of the best TTF non-hinted rendering I've seen. Nice work!

And, yes, it does look like the bug is gone, thanks!

It will be interesting to look through a simplified, stand-alone(ish)
version of the code to fully grasp the detail of your approach. Again, no
rush, though.

Dan

On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:50 PM, J. Vuletich (mail lists) <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Hi Dan,
>
> Quoting Dan Amelang <[email protected]>:
>
>   Hi Juan,
>
> Thanks for the screenshots, that helps a lot! Now, it would be ideal to
> have a visual like this to for the comparison:
> http://typekit.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/jensonw-900.png. But, I know
> that you've got limited time to work on this, and such a thing wouldn't be
> very high priority. Maybe down the road.
>
>
> Please take a look at
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13285702/Morphic3-TimesNewRomanSample.png
> I used Times New Roman for the sample. It is similar but not identical to
> the font in the Adobe demo image. I did it by converting the text to SVG in
> Inkscape, then using Morphic 3 to draw the svg file.
>
> There is no hinting at all here! Just better rasterization. The shape and
> weight is truer and more uniform (especially at smaller sizes), most glyphs
> look sharper. Starting from the third line, the quality is consistently
> better.
>
>   Also, comparing your renderer+stroke font to the recently open sourced
> Adobe font rasterizer would be interesting, too (
> http://blog.typekit.com/2013/05/01/adobe-contributes-cff-rasterizer-to-freetype/).
> As far as I can tell, Adobe's rasterizer is pretty much the the
> state-of-the-art rasterizer for outline font rasterization. If you're
> making the case that outline fonts are intrinsically unable to match the
> quality of your stroke font, this comparison would be a convincing way to
> do so.
>
>
> I think the real contribution of Morphic 3 here is better rasterization,
> that doesn't need hinting to give very crisp and detailed results.
>
>   Going back to the topic of Morphic 3 rendering TrueType fonts,  I'm
> attaching a few unfiltered zooms from your M3-TTF.png (your more recent
> M3-TTF-5.png looks the same in these areas). Notice the saturated colors in
> the middle of the black text. You mentioned that you have color fringing
> problems with <9 point sizes, but this font is about 12pt and the problem
> doesn't look like color fringing (i.e., the coloring isn't light nor just
> on the fringes, see
> http://typekit.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/gdi-cleartype.png for what I
> understand color fringing to look like). Maybe something else is going on
> here?
>
> ... snip ...
>
> Dan
>
>
> Yes. There was a bug there. It only happened for curve segments shorter
> than one pixel, affecting only very small point sizes. Thanks for pointing
> it out! The sample I prepared today clearly shows that the bug was fixed.
>
> Cheers,
> Juan Vuletich
>
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