Erik van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> You may have mentioned this before, but did you try any Western CID
> fonts?

I didn't know there was such a thing.  No, that's wrong.  I know that
there *can* be such a thing as Western-only CID fonts but I didn't
know that any *existed*.  Do you have a pointer to one that I can test
with?

> EUC has the 8th bit on both bytes set to one, but jisx0208.1990-0
> doesn't. Isn't there any other CIDfont that you could use?

Oho, I didn't realize this.  That explains the stuff below...

> Have you tried xfd on the jis fonts? Click "Next Page" until it says
> "upper left: 0x3000", and you should see the first group of Kanjis.

Duh, I never even thought about using xfd.  Using that on
-adobe-wadago-bold-...-jisx0208.1990-0 has some telling results.  I
pressed "Next Page" for quite a while, passing through 0x3000 (where I
saw nothing) and continued through 0xa000.  Tellingly, I found the
first glyph at 0xa1a2.  The glyph was U+3001 IDEOGRAPHIC COMMA (I'm
just using the Unicode code points for description).  I don't have a
copy of the JIS X 0208-1990 handy, but I don't think that's where I
should find it, is it?  Looking through one of the 'jis-fixed' fonts I
find the same glyph at 0x2122.

If I run xfd on -adobe-wadago-bold-...-iso10646-1 I find U+3001
exactly where I expect to find it, at 0x3001.  So at least the
'UniJIS' CMap works like expected.

I looked again at Adobe TN 5094 'CJK_CID' and noted that it lists
ISO-2022-JP as an encoding for the code space 0x2121 through 0x7e7e.
I adjusted the fonts.scale to use the 'H' (the ISO2022 encoding,
horizontal variants) rather than 'EUC-H' (EUC-JP horizontal) CMaps,
tried again, and this time it worked!  I see the same set of glyphs in
both the 'jis-fixed' font and -adobe-wadago-...-jisx0208.1990-0.

I'm still losing with the Hiragino fonts however.  I suspect this may
be a conversion problem with PfaEdit, or perhaps there's something
more subtle.  I don't have any other CIDfonts to test with, though.
Also, mkcfm still doesn't like them, so perhaps there's a file format
problem.

'james

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