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> From: Jeremias Maerki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi,

Not being subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'm posting on fop-dev for the time
being (besides this, I'm a bit hesitant on whether I should even be
responding in the first place --if anyone thinks this should be added to the
wiki, just yell):

> Concerning the proposed TLPs I'm wondering if FOP and Batik shouldn't go
> together somehow. Both projects deal with XML to graphics conversions.
> FOP currently has 2 Batik Transcoder implementations (additional output
> formats for Batik: PDF, PS/EPS). So there is some kind of overlap which
> needs to be dealt with sooner or later. One possibility is to move the
> transcoders over to Batik but parts of them are FOP-specific so both
> projects should somehow be able to work on the common code. Moving these
> out of FOP still means a dependency on FOP's PDF, PostScript and font
> support code. These might need to be separated into "Commons" projects
> to be accessible to both projects and to ensure compatibility and
> cooperation.

I agree, and don't want to come across as greedy here, but when it comes to
use-cases, fact remains that you can have XSL-FO w/ embedded SVG, but not
the other way around. (and for that matter: AFAICT XSL-FO can be rendered to
SVG, but not the other way around... this could, of course, change if the
two projects in question were merged somehow) On top of that, judging solely
from user-list traffic, FOP seems to have had nearly thrice the attention
Batik has (dev has been almost seven times as busy). Ok, maybe it takes our
users three messages to explain them something, and maybe our developers are
even worse :) No, I definitely see this as a pointer to the wideness of
usage.

I certainly support the idea of integrating the two projects one way or
another. As I understand, there's a bunch of talented developers at
batik-dev, so I would certainly welcome a closer cooperation between the two
teams. In the long term, I think it would also be a benefit for the two
specs (SVG / XSL-FO), if they become more and more directed towards combined
usage, making SVG users aware of the possibilities of XSL-FO and vice versa.
A combined user-list might be a good starter...


Cheers,

Andreas

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