OK - i will do that!

Stefan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:35 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Patch Proposal] Integrate FOP with 
> Cocoon/Excalibur Source
> Resolving
> 
> 
> Absolutely, thanks!  Indeed, if there is *functionality* you 
> need that 
> can be programmed natively into FOP--for the use of all, 
> without needing 
> to tie us to particular frameworks--fantastic--please just enter this 
> enhancement request into Bugzilla so it doesn't get lost (you 
> can just 
> reference this email in the ML archives).  Thank you for 
> bringing this 
> to our attention.
> 
> Glen
> 
> 
> Stefan Seifert schrieb:
> 
> >I understand understand your concerns concering avalon (and 
> followed myself the thread you noticed in the last weeks).
> >
> >But it would be great to have any possibility to "plug in" a 
> own source resolving concept in FOP in any case! This could 
> be Excalibur or anything else.
> >
> >Consider something like this (very rough):
> >
> >public interface FopImageResolver {
> >  
> >  URL resolve(String href) throws MalformedURLException;
> >
> >}
> >
> >And a extension to FopImageFactory:
> >
> >public static void setImageResolver(FopImageResolver 
> resolver) { ... }
> >public static FopImageResolver getImageResolver() { ... }
> >
> >This would allow to "plug in" every image resolving concept 
> that is needed for 3rdpary application integration including 
> avalong-based cocoon from now, whatever-based cocoon in the 
> future and others.
> >
> >And only some additional lines of code in the Fop sourcebase 
> - without dependencies to any "non-base" tool.
> >
> >If you follow some user mailing lists like cocoon and 
> forrest there are dozens of examples of problems with 
> embedded images in PDFs, because fop uses internal a complete 
> different resolving concept than cocoon. This could be solved 
> very easy, i think.
> >
> >Stefan
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Glen Mazza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:45 AM
> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Subject: Re: [Patch Proposal] Integrate FOP with 
> >>Cocoon/Excalibur Source
> >>Resolving
> >>
> >>
> >>I don't think so.  For one, the 0.20.x branch is basically 
> >>frozen.  But 
> >>more fundamentally, we're moved away from Avalon in 1.0.  
> Like Xalan, 
> >>Batik, AntennaHouse and RenderX, we're a base tool--we shouldn't be 
> >>sitting on frameworks which would then require other users 
> of FOP to 
> >>import that framework as well.
> >>
> >>Cocoon is also moving away from Avalon.  I refer you to the 
> >>"building on 
> >>stone" thread:  
> >>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=108004833700001&r=1&w=2
> >>
> >>The problem here appears not to be FOP's "lack of property 
> Excalibur 
> >>source resolving support"--of course, gazillions of PDF 
> >>documents that 
> >>have been printed without that feature, not just by FOP but by the 
> >>commercial implementations--but rather, that you're working with a 
> >>framework that can not interface with a base Java tool, a 
> >>framework that 
> >>requires FOP to be rewritten in order to work with it.  So it would 
> >>appear to be better for you to keep wrapping and modifying 
> >>FOP to suit 
> >>your needs.  It is not like there are that many releases of 
> >>FOP anyway.
> >>
> >>Glen
> >>
> >>
> >>Stefan Seifert schrieb:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Recently we integrated for our project Cocoon 2.1.4 with DAY 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Communqiué 3.5.4 (a CMS) and use it together with FOP 0.20.5 
> >>for PDF generation.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>The problem with the existing FOP integration in cocoon is 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>the lack of properly Excalibur source resolving support. 
> >>Without this (excellent) feature it is not possible to embed 
> >>images in PDFs from custom source implementations (i.e. a 
> >>communiqué contentbus source implementation in our case). For 
> >>some reasons it was not possible for us to use the common 
> >>workaround and include the images via a HTTP request.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>To solve this problem we patched the FOP Sources (Class 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>FopImageFactory) and implemented in a simple way a support 
> >>for Excalibur Source Resolving in Cocoon (extended file 
> >>attached, added sections are clearly marked with comments).
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Because of the existing FOP 0.20.5 implementation we have to 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>use some static methods to initialize FOP with the current 
> >>source resolver from cocoon (this is the only drawback of the 
> >>solution). The implementation checks first to resolve a image 
> >>URL with the source resolver, and has a fallback to the 
> >>default fop implementation if this fails.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>To initialize FOP with the current cocoon source resolver it 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>is possible to write a simple cocoon action and add it to the 
> >>pdf generation pipeline (sample attached - 2nd file).
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Through not tested in all details yet this solutions works 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>very well for us (and should offer a better performance than 
> >>the workaround with the http requests).
> >>    
> >>
> >>>I cross-post this message to fop-dev and cocoon-dev.
> >>>To the FOP developers: Any chance to integrate Excalibur 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Source Resolving support in the main FOP codebase?
> >>    
> >>
> >>>If this would be the case we could patch the cocoon pdf 
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>serializer too to hand over the source resolver and get lack 
> >>of the additional action.
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Stefan
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >  
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