Hi Jeremias,

does it mean that with current fop 0.95 version and trunk it is not possible to 
create valid pdf/a-1b document and only one possibility is work around with 
ansi encoded fonts what adds extra document sizes?

regards,

Virginijus 

--- Jeremias Maerki <[email protected]> schrieb am Fr, 25.6.2010:

> Von: Jeremias Maerki <[email protected]>
> Betreff: Re: AW: “CIDset    in subset font is incomplete”    error by 
> pdf/a-1b validation
> An: [email protected]
> Datum: Freitag, 25. Juni, 2010 11:46 Uhr
> Virginjus,
> 
> yes, I agree with them after reviewing the XMP spec from
> 2008. I
> originally wrote the XMP support with the spec from
> September where the
> requirement for the arrays were not explicit. On the web,
> you can find
> various examples where dc:date is not used in an rdf:Seq. I
> wrote the
> XMP parser so it can handle both cases. So Adobe's
> implementation is
> a bit picky then.
> 
> I've opened a Bugzilla issue: 
> https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=49499
> No promises when I get to it, though.
> 
> Thanks for following up with Adobe. I've never had any luck
> so I've
> pretty much given up on that front.
> 
> On 25.06.2010 09:34:58 Virginjus Kandrotas wrote:
> > Hello Jeremias,
> > 
> > I have discussed my problem with Adobe developers on
> Adobe support site. They found that my dc:date in my pdfa
> document has wrong value. By the XMP specification 
> dc:date should become seq Date value, but fop generates only
> Date value.  For example actual dc:date looks like :
> >
> <dc:date>2010-06-22T13:58:12+02:00</dc:date>,
> > 
> > valid should be: 
> > <dc:date>
> >         <rdf:Seq>
> 
> >       
>    <rdf:li>2010-06-22T13:58:12+02:00</rdf:li>
> 
> >     
>    </rdf:Seq>
> >       </dc:date>
> > 
> > do you agree with them, if yes can you please fix it
> in Trunk ?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Virginijus
> > 
> > --- Jeremias Maerki <[email protected]>
> schrieb am Di, 22.6.2010:
> > 
> > > Von: Jeremias Maerki <[email protected]>
> > > Betreff: Re: AW: “CIDset   in
> subset font is incomplete”   error by
> pdf/a-1b validation
> > > An: [email protected]
> > > Datum: Dienstag, 22. Juni, 2010 18:25 Uhr
> > > Virginijus,
> > > 
> > > earlier, you were talking about problems with the
> font, but
> > > the only
> > > thing Acrobat 9.2 seems to bark at is some
> problem in the
> > > XMP metadata.
> > > And that one, I believe, is bogus. "dc:date" is
> part of the
> > > XMP
> > > specification and therefore not considered an
> extension
> > > schema, so FOP
> > > does not have to generate any extension schema
> > > information.
> > > 
> > > I don't know if it's related but I had trouble
> using a
> > > private XMP
> > > extension schema (without PDF/A) when opening the
> PDF in
> > > Acrobat Reader
> > > 9.x whereas Acrobat Reader 8.x opened the file
> without
> > > problems. In the
> > > end I don't trust Acrobat at all. New versions
> fix old
> > > problems and
> > > introduce new ones. It's one big mess.
> > > 
> > > So, what does pdfaPilot say?
> > > 
> > > On 22.06.2010 16:47:40 Virginjus Kandrotas
> wrote:
> > > > Hello Jeremias,
> > > > 
> > > > I have tested pdfa function with the files
> you
> > > attached. Unfortunately
> > > > validation result is the same as with my own
> fo input
> > > and configuration
> > > > files. We are using Adobe Profesional 9.2
> Version. see
> > > validation
> > > > result screen-shots and generated PDF in
> attachments.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Virginijus
> > > > 
> > > > --- Jeremias Maerki <[email protected]>
> > > schrieb am Di, 22.6.2010:
> > > > 
> > > > > Von: Jeremias Maerki <[email protected]>
> > > > > Betreff: Re: AW: “CIDset  in subset
> font
> > > is incomplete”  error by pdf/a-1b validation
> > > > > An: [email protected]
> > > > > Datum: Dienstag, 22. Juni, 2010 14:41
> Uhr
> > > > > On 22.06.2010 12:30:03 Virginjus
> > > > > Kandrotas wrote:
> > > > > > Hello FOP team,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I just downloaded current FOP
> Trunk.
> > > Unfortunately the
> > > > > problem
> > > > > > regarding validation against Adobe
> Preflight
> > > and
> > > > > “pdfaPilot” still exist. Using
> > > > > > my workaround with ansi fonts is
> working,
> > > but this
> > > > > option increase each
> > > > > > pdf output document at  ~180 kb.
> Can you
> > > please
> > > > > explain dthis behavior?
> > > > > 
> > > > > With Ansi encoding the complete font is
> embedded.
> > > With
> > > > > Unicode (CID)
> > > > > encoding, only the subset of characters
> you
> > > really use is
> > > > > embedded.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Why standard pdfa-1b fop font
> encoding is
> > > still not
> > > > > working ? Have you
> > > > > > ever tested you pdfa-1b output
> documents
> > > against
> > > > > Acrobat Preflight, if
> > > > > > yes, can you please send me
> working
> > > exmaple.fo and
> > > > > fop.xconf ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > The PDF generated by the attached
> example runs
> > > through
> > > > > Acrobat Prof.
> > > > > 8.1.2 as my colleague tells me.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Virginijus
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- Virginjus Kandrotas <[email protected]>
> > > > > schrieb am Do, 15.4.2010:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Von: Virginjus Kandrotas
> <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > Betreff: “CIDset in subset
> font is
> > > > > incomplete” error by pdf/a-1b
> validation
> > > > > > > An: [email protected]
> > > > > > > Datum: Donnerstag, 15. April,
> 2010
> > > 10:25 Uhr
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I am trying to use fop 0.95
> to generate
> > > pdf/a-1b
> > > > > conform
> > > > > > > documents. By validating
> created pdf
> > > document
> > > > > > > against   
> > > > > > > “callas pdfaPilot“ online
> demo
> > > version  
> > > http://www.datalogics.com/products/callas/callaspdfA-onlinedemo.asp
> > > > > > > as well Acrobat Professional
> Preflight
> > > function I
> > > > > am getting
> > > > > > > following error:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > “CIDset in subset font is
> incomplete
> > > (1 match
> > > > > on 1 page)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Text Gladiator,Bold 12.0 pt
> TrueType
> > > (CID)
> > > > > embedded (as a
> > > > > > > subset) (1 match)”
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > As example fo input file I am
> using fop
> > > 0.95
> > > > > > >
> test/xml/pdf-a/minimal-pdf-a.fo and
> > > > > test/test.xconf config
> > > > > > > file.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Can anybody explain what is
> wrong here
> > > ? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Virginijus
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
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