Timo Goebel <m...@timogoebel.name> writes: >> On 22. May 2017, at 12:27, Ohad Levy <ohadl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Since we get a lot of lift from fog, especially for popular providers (e.g. >> ec2) IMHO its not a good idea to remove fog, which means that we balance >> between community contributions to fog (e.g. stuff we won't "enjoy" as we >> will not corporate) vs other benefits mentioned above. >> >> I for one, is not convinced the effort to not run with fog is less work then >> adding / updating a fog provider. >> >> Ohad > > I do agree with Ohad here. I'd focus on improving the fog-providers and not > trying to reinvent the weel. > I think, "cloud" topics like focussing on real server orchestration (think > hostgroup as an auto scaling group) adds more benefits for a user. A user > usually doesn't care about the library used. Using foreman as a tool to setup > a cloud or container environment on bare metal does add value. > > Fog doesn't do any network orchestration, yet. If we add this (e.g. > provision a vlan on a switchport or some SDN), that would be a valid > point imho to switch the library.
I think what's missing is not well-defined layer between Foreman and Fog, and we perhaps over-use the Fog as the unification layer. I feel quite a lot of risk in connecting the migration between oVirt v3 vs. v4 with introduction of new layer into the Foreman to serve better for our purposes, that would not use the Fog. Especially when the APIv4 is pretty close. If we make fog oVirt provider use APIv4, we still have chance that the code will be used outside of Foreman, that will make the implementation better: from the past - did we experience this happening in oVirt or other providers? (my feeling is that they did, but not monitoring that that much) Long story short: 1. I agree we should not expose Fog as THE layer we use in the UI/API, to add the entry points that are interesting for use but not for fog that much 2. we should continue with fog-ovirt to use APIv4 Even though it looks compelling to connecting this two, I would rather take it independent steps. -- Ivan > > - Timo > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "foreman-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to foreman-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "foreman-dev" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to foreman-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
