On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Stephanie Watson<s...@foresightlinux.org> wrote: > I have waited to give my thoughts on this because I wanted to carefully word > my response to be as useful as possible. > > LAYER 1 of 2... the non-technical end-user, and the easy out-of-box > experience: > > One of the original goals of Foresight was to ensure a clean and simple > desktop with the latest versions of some cool open source software for using > the Internet, doing office work, listening to music, watching video, and > just generally ensuring that "your desktop should be cool." This applies to > even the most non-technical audience who needs an easy-to-use out-of-box > experience that is also easy to maintain. I would prefer that continue to > be our target audience from the desktop perspective. > > Conary is its own animal. One thing I have been wanting to do, but just not > had sufficient time to do, is further develop the project I started at > conaryuncorked.org: provide all levels of instructional material for both > maintaining a Conary-based system and for packaging software to be installed > and managed by Conary. > > Does fedoraproject.org primarily promote RPM and YUM? Does ubuntu.com dive > into the advantages of APT? Even though Conary is the key reason that > Foresight is "teh @\/\/350|V|3" for us, trying that to a non-technical > end-user that they should use Foresight because of Conary. It is as > convincing as saying that you should fly Delta airlines because they run on > pixie dust. (Just trust us! The pixie dust is awesome! You'll love it!) > > ACTION SUGGESTION: Make sure the first page a user lands on at > foresightlinux.org spins Foresight as "easier to maintain, and always has > the latest versions of your applications thanks to innovative underlying > technology not available in other desktop OSes." In this way, you have > conveyed the features of Conary that make Foresight so great, but you have > not assumed instant trust in the word "Conary."
Agreed with actions Suggestion. But i think we must focus to layer 2/2 > LAYER 2 of 2... the Linux enthusiast ready to go deeper: > > Naturally, as Linux enthusiasts, after the new and shiny has worn off of a > new distro experience, we are ready to break it apart and bend it to our > will. For this, I think all of you are on the right track, though we have > to be careful to add the knowledge in layers instead of tossing the think > "Conary" book at them. Here's where I think my conaryuncorked.org project > can come into play; if you think this is a useful project, I will dive into > it more in the coming weeks. > > ACTION SUGGESTION: From the front page of foresightlinux.org, let's keep it > even simpler than before, kind of like Fedora has done at fedoraproject.org. > Besides the main page, have a "Downloads" page and a "Get Help" page that > address the same audience as the main page, but then have a single page that > is the "Linux Geeks Guide to Foresight." That single geek intro page can > lead to the wiki and other resources that dive into the technical realm. im prefer set a diff with other distro website structure. for set the differences of us. > I think if we go toward this two-layer kind of system, we can ensure each > goal addresses one or both of these audiences, and we can balance that over > time. If, by some chance, Ubunu decides to abandon its Debian roots and > embrace Conary... well, Foresight will no longer be competitve for the > first-layer audience described here. In the meantime, though, I don't want > to forget them, especially since Foresight may be their introduction to > Linux in general. Ubuntu left deb ? i dont think so All employee are deb experts. > So there you go... some of my thoughts... responses? > > -Stef > > -- > Stephanie Watson > Raleigh, North Carolina > _______________________________________________ > Foresight-devel mailing list > Foresight-devel@lists.rpath.org > http://lists.rpath.org/mailman/listinfo/foresight-devel > _______________________________________________ Foresight-devel mailing list Foresight-devel@lists.rpath.org http://lists.rpath.org/mailman/listinfo/foresight-devel