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>>> Hale Landis 03/20/02 05:47PM >>>
> ... R/W Long commands ...
> You must remember that if no OS
> uses the command, the command
> is likely to disappear over time. 

Agreed.

Fun to see commodity desktop hosts as shipped using elements of Scsi that never 
appeared in Ata, like Scsi op x04 Format.

> I think most people thought then
> (and continue to think) that this functionality,
> if supported by a drive, is the reason
> we have "vendor specific" commands.

Hang on a minute.  There is a small gap between Optional and Obsolete, but a wide wide 
wide gap between Optional and VendorSpecific

The point of keeping Seek, Read/WriteLong, Recalibrate, etc. etc. Optional is to give 
device folk a chance of implementing something host folk want in advance.

By quietly neglecting to carry forward these commands past the 28 and 32 bit Lba 
limits, T10 & T13 have in effect made it more difficult than it was for host & device 
folk to cooperate.

I'd think the host folk will scream first: they face the prospect of getting locked 
into a single source for the vendor-specific commands they need.  Among the host folk, 
maybe the bridge whatever-to-Ata folk should scream first: they can't translate T10 to 
T13 in the 28 to 32 bit Lba range i.e. not above 128GiB @ 0.5KiB/block.

x4402 Pat LaVarre   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.aol.com/plscsi/


>>> McGrath, Jim 03/20/02 06:33PM >>>
> The people on T13,
> particularly the officers and editors,
> work quite long and hard
> and produce something
> of substantial value to the industry.

Yes certainly.  This fact should Not be in dispute, decidely I hope it is Not.


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