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Document Number: T13/e02118r0
Date: 24 April 2002
Reply to: Pete McLean
To: Membership of T13
From: Curtis Stevens, Secretary of T13, and Pete McLean, Chair of T13
Subject: Minutes of 34th T13 Plenary Meeting at Longmont, CO
April 23, 2002
Agenda
1 Opening remarks 3
2 Approval of agenda 5
3 Membership and attendance 5
3.1 Membership 5
3.2 Fees 5
3.3 Attendance 6
4 Approval of the minutes from the previous T13 plenary meeting
(e02110r0) 7
5 Document distribution 7
6 Review of previous action items 7
7 Old business 8
7.1 ATA-3 maintenance (X3.298-1997) [McLean] 8
7.2 ATA/ATAPI-6 project 1410D status (INCITS 361-2nnn) 9
7.3 EDD - 2 project 1484D status (INCITS 363-2nnn) 9
7.4 ATA/ATAPI Host Adapter Standard project 1510D 9
7.4.1 Draft review (1510D r0c) [Goodfellow] 9
7.5 ATA/ATAPI-7 project 1532D 9
7.5.1 Proposal for command integrity checking (e00160r1) [McLean]
9
7.5.2 Extended cable lengths (e00151r1) [Goodfellow] 9
7.5.3 Larger physical sector size (e01138r1) [Colegrove] 10
7.5.4 INTRQ assertion, negation, release, pull-up (e01119r0)
[Barras] 10
7.5.5 Extensions to device self-test (e01137r1) [Masiewicz] 10
7.5.6 Forced unit access (e01141r1) [Pan] 10
7.5.7 Unsolicited interrupts () [Goodfellow] 10
7.5.8 Reserved op-codes for serial ATA (e01145r1) [McLean] 11
7.5.9 Proposal to obsolete SEEK 12
7.5.10 ATA/ATAPI-7 schedule review 12
7.6 ATAPI Implementation Specification (e00150r0) [Goodfellow] (formerly
Consolidated ATAPI PACKET command set) 12
7.7 Domain validation (e01148r0) [Hedrick] 12
7.8 Serial ATA 12
7.9 EDD-3 project proposal (e02112r0) [Stevens] 13
7.10 IDEMA A/V working group 13
7.11 T13 Reflector, FTP, and Web Site Setup 13
7.12 Open issues list 13
8 New Business 13
8.1 IDENTIFY DEVICE data to support acoustic testing (e02115r0)
[Colegrove] 13
9 Liaison Reports 14
9.1 T10 14
9.2 SFF 14
9.3 IDEMA 14
10 Call for Patents 15
10.1 Nanjing e-Security Technology Co., Ltd. 15
11 Open Issues List Summary 15
12 Review of Action Items 15
13 Meeting Schedule 16
13.1 Authorization of ad hoc working groups 16
13.2 Long term meeting schedule 16
14 Adjournment 16
Results of the Meeting
1 Opening remarks
Pete McLean, the T13 Chair, called the meeting to order at 9:00 A.M. on
Tuesday, April 23, 2002. Pete thanked Marc Noblitt of Seagate Technology
for hosting the meeting.
As is customary, the people in attendance introduced themselves, and a copy
of the attendance list was circulated. Copies of the draft agenda were made
available to those in attendance.
The Chair reported that Curtis Stevens has volunteered be permanent
secretary for T13. The Chair thanked Curtis for volunteering and welcomed
him to the job.
The Chair briefly reviewed the meeting rules: T13 is a Technical Committee
of INCITS and operates under INCITS rules. Anyone with interest in the work
of the committee is free to attend and take part in discussions. However,
motions and votes are limited to member organizations, one vote per member
organization.
INCITS has requested that the antitrust guidelines be included in the
minutes for this meeting. The chair reviewed these guidelines:
NCITS ANTITRUST GUIDELINES
ITI counsel developed the NCITS Antitrust Guidelines for the protection of
NCITS and NCITS Subgroup members on antitrust issues. NCITS and NCITS
Subgroup members must follow the NCITS Antitrust Guidelines.
Anticipate Risks
NCITS and NCITS subgroup meetings must be conducted in a manner that avoids
the appearance of conduct which might violate the antitrust laws. The harsh
criminal penalties in the antitrust laws, for individuals as well as
organizations, the high costs of defending antitrust suits, the diversion of
resources from our important missions, and the risk of liability together
mandate an understanding of, and respect for, the antitrust laws by NCITS
and its members. Our objective is to create a climate where antitrust risks
are both anticipated and avoided.
Consult Counsel
Legal counsel should be consulted prior to any discussion of actions which
the staff or NCITS believes could raise antitrust issues, or which seem in
any way to be questionable or out of the ordinary. It is counsel's job to
advise NCITS on any matters that have legal significance. It is always
better to ask.
Notice and Agenda
Each NCITS or NCITS subgroup meeting must be preceded by a notice to the
members of the committee with a draft agenda. As required by NCITS
procedures, the agenda must be approved at the beginning of the meeting and
followed. Conduct of Meetings NCITS policy requires the full-time attendance
of a member of the NCITS staff at every meeting sponsored by NCITS, except
where otherwise approved. All participants should be afforded an opportunity
to present their views. Acting on behalf of NCITS, NCITS staff or an NCITS
officer or subgroup officer have the responsibility to terminate any
discussion, seek counsel's advice or, if necessary, terminate any meeting if
the discussion might be construed to raise questions under the NCITS
antitrust guidelines.
Minutes of Meetings
After each NCITS or NCITS subgroup meeting, concise minutes must be prepared
that accurately describe the actions taken, the justification for those
actions, and where appropriate, additional pertinent discussion. These
minutes must be prepared by a member of the NCITS staff or someone
designated by an NCITS officer to prepare the minutes. When prepared by
someone other than a member of the NCITS staff, the draft minutes shall be
reviewed by the NCITS staff prior to distribution to the committee.
Sensitive Topics
With rare exceptions that should be made only upon the advice of NCITS
counsel, there should never be discussion of the following topics at any
NCITS or an NCITS subgroup meeting:
* Any company's prices or pricing policies;
* Specific R&D, sales and marketing plans;
* Any company's confidential product, product development or
production strategies;
* Whether certain suppliers or customers will be served;
* Prices paid to input sources; or
* Complaints about individual firms or other actions that might tend
to hinder a competitor in any market.
Standards
In NCITS sponsored committees related to standards, all relevant opinions
should be considered and a sound technical basis for the NCITS position
should be articulated. When participating in other standard-setting bodies
on behalf of NCITS, NCITS representatives should be guided by both the
letter and the spirit of the established procedures, which are designed to
ensure that the process is open to all interested parties and standards are
based on objective technical factors. NCITS members should voluntarily
disclose any proprietary interest they may have in proposed standard in
order to reduce the risk of antitrust liability.
Educational Presentations
Sharing non-proprietary information among competitors is generally lawful.
Discussion should be limited to objectives, which promote overall consumer
welfare. Exchanging proprietary information may not be appropriate, if the
purpose or effect of the exchange is to lead to diminished competition in
the marketplace.
The Chair noted that the discussion of sensitive topics applied to committee
documents and reflector messages as well as meeting discussions.
Policies and Procedures for INCITS are available at the web site at
www.ncits.org site under the standing document category as SD-2. T13
operates under these revised policies and procedures augmented by the T13
procedures at the T13 web site at www.t13.org.
2 Approval of agenda
The agenda as reflected in these minutes was approved unanimously.
3 Membership and attendance
The Chair reviewed the rules for membership and attendance:
3.1 Membership
An individual from an organization new to T13 must attend at least one T13
plenary meeting before requesting voting membership. After that meeting,
the representative may request membership from the T13 chair stating
expertise and material interest in the scope of the committee and pay the
required fees to INCITS. Voting privileges begin upon receipt by the INCITS
Secretariat of applicable fees for the membership year.
3.2 Fees
Current INCITS memberships fees for Observer, Principal, or additional
Alternate are 800.00 USD. The First Alternate is free with a Principal
membership.
Mailings of committee documents are available to any interested party after
each plenary meeting. The cost for mailings for one year is 300.00 USD for
mailing in the USA and 400.00 USD for mailing to a location outside of the
USA.
Persons with questions or requests regarding membership fees and/or
subscriptions for mailings should contact Monica Vago, Manager, ITI
Standards Operations, at 202-626-5739, send a fax to her at 202-638-4922, or
contact her by email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
3.3 Attendance
In addition to payment of fees, there are also minimum attendance and
participation requirements to maintain voting membership status on T13. A
representative from a member organization must attend two of every three
plenary meetings and vote on at least every other letter ballot. If a
member organization fails to have a representative in attendance at two of
the last three T13 plenary meetings or vote on every other letter ballot,
they are warned that failing to attend the next T13 meeting or to vote on
the next letter ballot will result in their membership being terminated.
Attendance at a working group meeting does not affect voting membership
status in T13.
Two voting members were in jeopardy due to lack of attendance: LSI Logic and
Seagate.
Both members in jeopardy were present. No members were terminated due to
lack of attendance.
The chair announced that Sierra Logic had attended the last meeting, paid
fees at INCITS, and requested membership. The chair welcomed Sierra Logic as
a new member of T13.
The T13 voting membership during the meeting was 22 organizations.
The number of eligible voting members required for establishing a quorum was
8. 12 member organizations were present at the start of meeting, thus a
quorum was present.
The following individuals were in attendance:
Phil Gardner Absolute Software Jim Hatfield Overland Data
Kevin Moore American Megatrend Tony Goodfellow Pacific Digital
Sumit Puri Fujitsu Curtis Stevens Pacific Digital
Dan Colegrove IBM Arie Krantz QLogic
Michael Eschmann Intel Marc Noblitt Seagate
Knut Grimsrud Intel Jeff Reid Seagate
Hale Landis LAD Storage Consulting Bryan Cowger Sierra Logic
Tim Thompson LSI Logic Glenn Lott STMicroelectronics
Pete McLean Maxtor Tasuku Kasebayashi Toshiba
Akil Houston Microsoft John Masiewicz Western Digital
4 Approval of the minutes from the previous T13 plenary meeting
(e02110r0)
The minutes from the previous meeting, e02110r0, were approved unanimously.
5 Document distribution
The following documents were distributed either via hard copy, soft copy, or
both:
Agenda and document directory
e00160r1 Command integrity proposal
e02101r0 Proposal to obsolete SEEK
e01145r1 Reserved opcodes for Serial ATA
e02018r0 Letter from the Serial ATA consortium
e02015r0 Patent statement from Nanjing E-Security
e02112r0 EDD-3 Project Proposal
e02113r0,e02114r0 Documents from IDEMA Japan AV group
e02115r0 Proposal to add Identify Data To Support ISO-7779 Acoustic Testing
6 Review of previous action items
1. Pete McLean is to check with PCMCIA on which revision of ATA they
are tied to - Completed - to be covered in item 7.1.
2. Dan Colegrove is to check with CompacFlash on which revision of ATA
they are tied to - Completed - to be covered in item 7.1.
3. The Chair is to forward the results of the ATA/ATAPI-6 public review
comment resolution to INCITS for further processing - Completed - to be
covered in 7.2.
4. Curtis Stevens, editor, is to produce revision 3 of EDD-2 that
includes the resolution of letter ballot comments - Completed - to be
covered in item 7.3.
5. The chair is to forward EDD-2 revision 3 to INCITS for further
processing - Completed - to be covered in item 7.3.
6. The chair is to respond to the Serial ATA committee indicating that
T13 is agreeable to taking over the Serial ATA 1.0 specification - Completed
- to be covered in item 7.8.
7 Old business
7.1 ATA-3 maintenance (X3.298-1997) [McLean]
The Chair reported that INCITS has advised him that ATA-3 is up for
maintenance. The committee must decide whether ATA-3 is to be renewed,
revised, or withdrawn by 18 June 2002.
Pete McLean reported that PCMCIA no longer ties its specification to a
specific ATA standard and has no objection to having ATA-3 withdrawn. Dan
Colegrove reported that the compact flash association has moved to
ATA/ATAPI-4 and is working on an upgrade to ATA/ATAPI-6. Hale Landis
brought up the issue of 8-bit transfers and recommended that work be done in
ATA/ATAPI-7.
Hale Landis moved and Marc Noblitt seconded that T13 recommend to INCITS
that ATA-3 (X3.298-1997) be withdrawn. Mike Eschmann was concerned about
the fate single word DMA, which was only described in ATA-3. ATA-3 will
remain available on the T13 WEB site. Roll call vote results: 12-0-0-10 as
detailed below.
Absolute Software Not present
Adaptec Not Present
Apple Not Present
Fujitsu Not Present
Hitachi Not Present
IBM Dan Colegrove Yes
Intel Michael Eschmann Yes
Iomega Not Present
LAD Storage Consulting Hale Landis Yes
LSI Logic Tim Thompson Yes
Maxtor Pete McLean Yes
Microsoft Not Present
Morgan Link Not Present
Pacific Digital Tony Goodfellow Yes
Phoenix Not Present
QLogic Arie Krantz Yes
Sandisk Not Present
Seagate Marc Noblitt Yes
Sierra Logic Bryan Cowger Yes
STMicroelectronics Glenn Lott Yes
Toshiba Tasuku Kasebayashi Yes
Western Digital John Masiewicz Yes
7.2 ATA/ATAPI-6 project 1410D status (INCITS 361-2nnn)
The Chair reported that the resolution of the public review comments was
forwarded to INCITS. Since the resolution of one of the comments was
considered a substantive change, ATA/ATAPI-6 is now at second public review
closing May 13.
7.3 EDD - 2 project 1484D status (INCITS 363-2nnn)
The Chair reported that EDD-2 revision 3 was forwarded to INCITS for further
processing. EDD-2 has been assigned document number INCITS 363 - 2nnn and is
currently at public review. Public review closes May 13.
7.4 ATA/ATAPI Host Adapter Standard project 1510D
7.4.1 Draft review (1510D r0c) [Goodfellow]
Tony Goodfellow discussed how to identify the version of the ADMA standard a
chip complies to. Mike Eschmann felt that using the PCI device ID was
inappropriate. Mike proposed using a register in PCI configuration space.
After some discussion the review was postponed until Wednesday in hope that
more people interested in PCI would show up. Discussion picked up later
Tuesday afternoon. After some off-line discussion Tony Goodfellow made a
suggestion that a capabilities byte be requested from the PCI SIG. This
would create a standard PCI mechanism. Tony Goodfellow asked for a straw
poll on: is adding the PCI standard mechanism as optional and a register in
PCI memory space an acceptable option to solve the problem. There was some
discussion on the implications of this mechanism. The straw poll was not
taken. Instead several people agreed to go off-line and work out how to
identify the revision.
7.5 ATA/ATAPI-7 project 1532D
There were very few change-bars, no document review took place.
7.5.1 Proposal for command integrity checking (e00160r1) [McLean]
John Masiewicz reported that WD did not see the need for command integrity
check. They are not getting complaints regarding incorrect commands being
executed. Mike Eschmann also reported that serial ATA has this capability.
Curtis Stevens Motioned and Hale Landis seconded that e00160r1 be
incorporated into ATA/ATAPI-7. Result: 4-7-4-7, motion was defeated.
7.5.2 Extended cable lengths (e00151r1) [Goodfellow]
No further action. Mike Eschmann asked that this be dropped from the
agenda. Curtis Stevens responded that this is still under evaluation. John
Masiewicz asked for more data, including theoretical data, to be presented.
Dan Colegrove from IBM asked that more work be presented at the next
meeting.
7.5.3 Larger physical sector size (e01138r1) [Colegrove]
Still waiting for feedback. Dan Colegrove is still working on a document
update including changes to IDENTIFY DEVICE data and the addition of an
annex that describes how to use the larger sector sizes. Akil Houston from
Microsoft made a call for prototype hardware. Marc Noblitt proposed using a
SCSI drive and setting the sector size to 4k as a test.
7.5.4 INTRQ assertion, negation, release, pull-up (e01119r0) [Barras]
Larry Barras was not present for discussion, the chair summarized the
proposal. John Masiewicz pointed out that the current resistor value has
been in standard since day one. John proposed that the problem be noted.
John's main concern was that it would make drives non-compliant. Toshiba
and Seagate have not yet come to a decision.
No action was taken.
7.5.5 Extensions to device self-test (e01137r1) [Masiewicz]
Revised proposal will be available at the next meeting.
7.5.6 Forced Unit Access (FUA) (e01141r1) [Pan]
Akil Houston informed the group that the current proposal was being revised
to use six new opcodes. This revised proposal will clone the six write
commands that are currently in use today and add the forced unit access
capability. Hale Landis proposed adding a sequential/random bit. Dan
Colegrove suggested that the proposed that the FUA commands become generic
and that an FUA bit be defined. This would allow for extended capability,
such as sequential/random, to be added later. John Masiewicz expressed
concern that new commands would break hardware automation. Dan Colegrove
asked for an explanation of why FUA is necessary. This could be included in
an overview. Sumit Puri from Fujitsu asked what would be wrong with using
an FUA prefix for existing command. Akil expressed that one usage was for
manufacturing. If power is pulled while an image is being built that image
could be corrupted. With FUA, the corruption could be limited. Hale
requested that Akil update the proposal to include a complete description of
what happens on FUA. Dan suggested that a SET FEATUREs be created to enable
FUA and that FUA be limited to extended write commands.
The group asked for the following:
1. A complete definition of what happens with the write cache,
write queue, and ending status.
2. Which write commands are really necessary.
3. Why is this capability necessary and what is the theory of
operation.
Akil was authorized to do a telephone conference to discuss the issues
before the next meeting.
7.5.7 Unsolicited interrupts () [Goodfellow]
Proposal still under revision.
7.5.8 Reserved op-codes for serial ATA (e01145r1) [McLean]
Pete McLean presented the latest request from the Serial ATA II group. Knut
Grimsrud explained his need for reserved opcodes in SATA II as follows:
1. 2 opcodes (1 read and 1 write) to accommodate native queuing
for First Party DMA. The intent is to only support 48 bit and to add FUA
from the start.
2. 1 opcode for CDB pass through to support server drive
extensions. Pete McLean was concerned that each opcode has a single
protocol. Knut expressed that some commands transfer data and some do not.
Curtis Stevens asked about using the current ATAPI command for this
capability. Hale Landis noted that current ATAPI only allows for 12 byte
CDB's. Several people expressed that this would be a big modification to
the document and it was more than just a pass through. Tony Goodfellow
suggested that using ATAPI could allow for any size CDB.
The proposal also asks for some IDENTIFY DEVICE space to report SATA
presence and capabilities.
Knut reported that some HDD devices do not use a 512 block size. In the
banking industry, 520 bytes and 528 bytes are also used. Dan Colegrove
thinks that the logical block size should be separated from the physical
block size. Hale expressed concern that a block size other than 512 bytes
would affect other things such as SMART logs and IDENTIFY DEVICE.
SATA is requesting SET FEATURES with capabilities reported in IDENTIFY
DEVICE to enable and disable SATA features
SATA is also requesting a new extended read log page that SATA can use to
collect SATA specific information.
Dan Colegrove expressed a need for an error bit that says go look in the
logs for what happened. The A/V command set had this capability.
Pete McLean moved and Marc Noblitt seconded that the ATA/ATAPI-7 editor
reserve 8 opcodes, 2 ID Words, 1 set features pair and 1 log page. John
Masiewicz was concerned about only reserving one log page. Pete accepted
the friendly amendment that the number of reserved log pages be changed to 8
and the ID words be changed to 4.
The amended motion now reads: Pete McLean moved and Marc Noblitt seconded
that the ATA/ATAPI-7 editor reserve 8 opcodes, 4 ID Words, 1 set features
pair and 8 log pages. Sumit expressed concern about allocating 8 pages.
Nobody really cared... Motion passes 16-0-0-6.
7.5.9 Proposal to obsolete SEEK
Hale Landis Moved and Tim Thompson seconded that we obsolete the SEEK
command per e02101r0. No discussion. Motion Passed 11-0-4-7.
7.5.10 Other issues
Hale Landis requested that something be fixed regarding ATAPI commands.
7.5.11 ATA/ATAPI-7 schedule review
The schedule for the project as it is reflected in the following table was
reviewed. There were no changes made to the schedule at this meeting. The
chair reminded members that proposal cut-off for this project is June.
Schedule Item Original Prior Current
Project proposal Aug-01 Aug-01 Aug-01
Initial draft Dec-01 Dec-01 Dec-01
Proposal cut-off Jun-02 Jun-02 Jun-02
Stabilized draft Dec-02 Dec-02 Dec-02
Letter ballot Apr-03 Apr-03 Apr-03
Forward to NCITS Jun-03 Jun-03 Jun-03
Curtis Stevens asked if we wanted to extend the schedule to incorporate
SATA. It was the consensus of the group that we should maintain the
schedule and consider SATA for ATA/ATAPI 8. The chair took a straw poll on
if we should leave the schedule or change it. 11 were in favor of keeping
the schedule, 1 thought we should change.
7.6 ATAPI Implementation Specification (e00150r0) [Goodfellow] (formerly
Consolidated ATAPI PACKET command set)
Removed from future agenda at the request of the proposer.
7.7 Domain validation (e01148r0) [Hedrick]
Still under revision.
7.8 Serial ATA
The chair reported that a response was received from the Serial ATA
consortium, e02018r0. In this document the Serial ATA WG reports that they
plan on releasing SATA to T13 Q1'03. SATA-2 will also be released to T13
when production begins. Knut Grimsrud was present at the meeting and had
questions regarding ANSI patent policy. Knut was referred to Amy Morasco
for questions on ANSI patent policy.
7.9 EDD-3 project proposal (e02112r0) [Stevens]
Reviewed project proposal. A new revision will be posted to the WEB site
that will meet the two week rule for the next meeting.
7.10 IDEMA A/V working group
The chair reported that two documents were received from the IDEMA AV group,
e02113r0 and e02114r0. These documents represent the results of a survey of
disk and AV box vendors. The AV group has yet to discuss and reach consensus
on the results. Shoji Fuchigami of the AV group plans to attend the June
plenary in Irvine and report their conclusions.
7.11 T13 Reflector, FTP, and Web Site Setup
There was a concern expressed about duplicates, but nothing can be done
until the source E-Mails are identified.
Dan Colegrove split the WEB page to archive the documents dated before Y2k
to a different page.
7.12 Open issues list
There are no open issues.
8 New Business
8.1 IDENTIFY DEVICE data to support acoustic testing (e02115r0)
[Colegrove]
ISO-7779 presents a specification for acoustic testing involving seek time
and RPM. Dan Colegrove stated that this proposal would update IDENTIFY
DEVICE to return average seek time and RPM. Marc Noblitt was concerned
about drives that change statistics (possibly with auto acoustic
management), what do they return? Pete McLean is concerned that everyone
measures average seek time differently. There is also a different average
for reads and writes. Dan admits that these are problems with his proposal.
After much discussion, the group decided they wanted to discuss the proposal
internally and then review the proposal at the next meeting.
8.2 Temperature & Vibration [Colegrove]
IBM would like to add capability to report that there is a temporary
correctable condition that is currently making the device exceed operating
parameters. These parameters could include hot, cold, pressure and
vibration. This capability would require an unsolicited interrupt or
polling. This could also require a deferred error.
Alternative 1 would be to create an extended smart that can report this type
of deferred error.
Alternative 2 would be to find a way to update the current smart capability.
8.3 Capacity Standardization (Pete McLean)
There are a couple OEMs that have approached IDEMA to standardize capacity
points. These OEMs have created a formula that creates 500MB increments in
the capacity points.
Question: does T13 want to become involved in this discussion? Dan
Colegrove agreed to do a proposal for the next meeting.
8.4 SMART Attributes (Pete McLean)
Several OEMs are specifying SMART attribute requirements. Is this a problem
we need to tackle in aT13?
8.5 Do we need a new CRC calculation for UDMA (Pete McLean)
The larger data transfers enabled by the 48-bit command-set can overload the
CRC returned on a data transfer. Do we need to limit the maximum UDMA burst
size? Or, do we need to do something else?
8.6 Could we retrieve error register bits
In ATA/ATAPI-6 the extended commands could have the unused error bits marked
reserved and thus make them available for later use
9 Liaison Reports
9.1 T10
The latest T10 liaison report from John Lohmeyer has been posted on the T13
web site as e02111r0.
9.2 SFF
The last SFF meeting only lasted about 90 minutes, Dal Alan was not present.
There was a new proposal for a 2.5" form factor. It appears to be aimed at
server class drives.
9.3 IDEMA
Pete McLean presented some preliminary data on the AV command set as
researched by IDEMA. A representative from IDEMA will attend the June
meeting.
Dan Colegrove reported that no further discussion on 4k sector size.
10 Call for Patents
The Chair explained the patent policy. A document is available from ANSI,
"Procedures for the Development and Coordination of American National
Standards", at no charge. This document is also on the INCITS web site at
ftp://www.ncits.org/help/ansi_sdo.html. Section 1.2.11 contains the ANSI
patent policy. Amy Marasco manages patent issues for ANSI and can be
contacted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 212-642-4954.
The Chair then called for patents and/or patent applications that may be
necessary to comply with the requirements in T13 standards, draft standards,
technical reports, or draft technical reports. There was no response to the
call for patents.
10.1 Nanjing e-Security Technology Co., Ltd.
The Chair reported that Nanjing e-Security Technology Co., Ltd has agreed to
comply with the ANSI patent policy with regard to their patent relating to
the SET MAX command. The agreement form has been posted as e02015r0.
11 Open Issues List Summary
No items on the list at this time.
12 Review of Action Items
1. Dan Colegrove will place a link on www.t13.org <http://www.t13.org>
to the INCITS antitrust policy
2. The chair to notify INCITS that T13 has recommended that withdraw
ATA-3 (X3.298-1997) be withdrawn.
3. Pete McLean to provide Knut Grimsrud with the opcodes, log page
numbers, etc. requested in motion in section 7.8
4. Tony Goodfellow to create e02117r0, which is a proposal on how to
identify the specification and revision level of an HBA and update the HBA
standard. These documents will be posted at least 2 weeks prior to the next
meeting.
5. Curtis Stevens to provide e02112r1 to Dan Colegrove for posting at
least 2 weeks prior to the next meeting.
6. Dan Colegrove agreed to do a proposal for standardizing drive
capacity point and post it prior the June meeting.
7. Pete McLean to send Curtis the Chinese version of the Nanjing
patent.
13 Meeting Schedule
13.1 Authorization of ad hoc working groups
No ad hoc working groups were authorized.
13.2 Long term meeting schedule
The meeting dates, locations, hosts, and contacts were reviewed through
CY2003 (included below). No changes were made at this meeting.
CY 2002 Dates Location Host Contact
June 25-26, 2002 Irvine, CA Phoenix Ron Salmon
August 20-22, 2002 Longmont, CO Maxtor Pete McLean
October 22-24, 2002 TBD Pacific Digital Tony Goodfellow
December 17-19, 2002 Irvine, CA Western Digital Darrin Bulik
CY 2003 Dates Location Host Contact
February 18-20, 2003 Placerville, CA Adaptec Ron Roberts
April 22-24, 2003 Longmont, CO Seagate Marc Noblitt
June 24-26, 2003 Irvine, CA Phoenix Ron Salmon
August 19-21, 2003 Longmont, CO Maxtor Pete McLean
October 21-23, 2003 TBD Pacific Digital Tony Goodfellow
December 16-18, 2003 Las Vegas IBM Dan Colegrove
NOTE - Meetings are scheduled for three days only.
As noted above the dates of the next plenary meeting of T13 are June 25th
and 26th. The meeting will be held in Irvine, CA, hosted by Ron Salmon of
Phoenix Technologies. A host meeting notice will be sent out on the
reflector and will be added to the web site.
The group agreed to reduce the June meeting to 2 days.
14 Adjournment
The meeting adjourned by the Chair, Pete McLean, upon completion of all the
agenda items at 4:00 P.M. on April 23, 2002.
