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I agree, this is an issue.  But also, this is just another in a line of....not that we 
shouldn't consider fixing it or investigating ways to resolve.  The same problem 
existed for the 528MB boundry and the 32GB boundry right off the top of me head.

Believe me I just dealt with the 32GB boundry last month on my wife's office system 
that I tried to add a new hard drive too.  I had the drive and the system and put them 
together and it didnt see that nice new shiny 80GB drive.  Bottom line, I dealt with 
that frustration.  Truth is, I would have never looked to see if the system supported 
it because like most people, I assumed (first mistake) the system supported the 
products being sold out there.

I wont be at the August meeting but I would enjoy some conversations on how to address 
this and other similar issues on how to tell end users their BIOS doesn't support 
things that aren't invented yet?

gary laatsch

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:23 AM
To: Gary Laatsch; Curtis Stevens; Eschmann, Michael K; ATA (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [t13] Who owns EDD3? and related 48bit drive concerns


AMIBIOS also returns the correct size in INT13 FN48 but Michael is correct.
There is no way to let the end user know the BIOS supports 48-bit LBA
without attaching a drive or contacting the OEM.

Kevin Moore
Senior Software Engineer
American Megatrends, Inc.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Laatsch [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 8:20 PM
> To:   Curtis Stevens; Eschmann, Michael K; ATA (E-mail)
> Subject:      RE: [t13] Who owns EDD3? and related 48bit drive concerns
> 
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> 
> 
> Michael,
> 
> I believe the Phoenix BIOS that supports 48-bit LBA devices correctly
> reports the drive size in INT13 FN48.  I will double check this though.  I
> wll also look at what EDD3.0 specifies and give my feedback to either the
> reflector or Curtis directly.
> 
> > Gary Laatsch
> > Principal Engineer
> > Phoenix Technologies Ltd.
> > 949-790-2107
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > "If you are going through hell, keep going." 
> >      - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965) 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curtis Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:29 PM
> To: 'Eschmann, Michael K'; ATA (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [t13] Who owns EDD3? and related 48bit drive concerns
> 
> 
> This message is from the T13 list server.
> 
> 
> I am the EDD-3 owner.  There are several BIOS vendors that have provided
> input to the EDD series.  T13 has been that forum in the past.  Usually,
> it
> takes a customer request to get new things into the BIOS in a consistent
> way...
> 
> -----------------------
> Curtis E. Stevens
> Pacific Digital Corp.
> 2052 Alton Parkway
> Irvine, CA 92606
> 
> Phone (949) 477-5713
> Fax (949) 252-9397
> 
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> WEB: www.PacificDigital.com 
> 
> Remember, it is easier to get into something than to get out of it.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eschmann, Michael K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:19 PM
> To: ATA (E-mail)
> Subject: [t13] Who owns EDD3? and related 48bit drive concerns
> 
> 
> This message is from the T13 list server.
> 
> 
> Since Curtis Stevens moseyed from Phoenix to PD, who officially owns
> editing
> of the EDD3 spec?
> 
> To get down to brass tacks, I've been getting calls about support for
> 48-bit
> LBA in OS's that require the Int13 Fn48 call to return back the correct
> size
> for a drive larger than 128GB (0x0FFFFFFF sectors) in order to use the
> entire disk, and I'd like to see something in the BIOS that can help these
> folks who are having problems.
> 
> Since there is currently no way an end-user can do to determine if a BIOS
> can handle these new large drives without buying one (then finding out you
> either have to chase down a new BIOS or return the new drive), I'd say
> this
> is not a very nice thing to do to an unsuspecting end-user.  Oh, yes, the
> customer could track down the BIOS and find out first if the BIOS is
> capable, but how many people are gonna do that when they are drooling over
> a
> big drive at a store and they have their visa(tm) card in their hand?
> 
> So, what do we gotta do to get a flag in the BIOS to indicate it can
> handle
> one of these large drives?
> 
> MKE.
> 
>  

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