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Right!

> From: don clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: old blue goose designs
> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 13:37:15 -0700
> To: ata reflector <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [t13] ATA Drive firmware update.
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> In the 28 years that I've known Hale, I have never seen him BS anyone.
> As a matter of fact, I've seen him go way out of his way to get the facts
> straight. 
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> 01/10/03 12:28:31 PM, Thomas Colligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> You get what you pay for. If an individual buys junk, an then complains
>> about their junky CD drive, then Duh! Again your back pedaling. In
> some
>> circles it is called BS.
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>>> From: Hale Landis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: Hale Landis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 22:03:36 -0700
>>> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: [t13] ATA Drive firmware update.
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>>> On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 16:45:58 -0800, Thomas Colligan wrote:
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>>>> You really do not know. Your back pedaling.
>>> 
>>> You are partly right... I don't know what percentage of CD/DVD
> drives
>>> that ship worldwide each year that support firmware upgrades. Do
> you
>>> know?
>>> 
>>> But if this was a common feature of CD and DVD drives then I would
>>> think you would be able to look at a drive's ID data or the drive's
>>> printed label or the drive's PCB or the drive's chipset and determine
>>> who made it so you could find their web site and find the firmware
>>> upgrade software.
>>> 
>>> I assume your company ships only drives that support firmware
>>> upgrades, and that is probably good, probably not necessary, but
>>> probably good. But just because your company ships a few million
> of
>>> the 200 million (or more) CD/DVD drives each year I'm not sure you
>>> are seeing a very good cross section of the products that are
>>> shipping worldwide.
>>> 
>>> Sure, I only see a few drives each year. Most are the cheapest thing
>>> you can buy at the local computer store so my sample size is not
> very
>>> valid either. 
>>> 
>>> As someone else said here: If you are looking at the first few
>>> thousand of a product then don't be surprised if they support
>>> firmware upgrade while for the rest of the product life that feature
>>> does not exist. Except when selling product to a company like yours
>>> that wants features that may never be used, there is no need to
>>> continue support for a feature that will never be used. Firmware
>>> updating is a real good example of this - once the firmware is
>>> "debugged" enough to run most of the time with Windows the
> firmware
>>> flash chip can be replaced with a ROM chip on the next 10 million
>>> drives!
>>> 
>>> Hale
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>>> *** Hale Landis *** www.ata-atapi.com ***
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