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> Subject: RE: [t13] Atapi odd H = C = D breaks
> Sent: Fri 1/31/2003 9:56 AM
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> T13 can't fix this problem for Pat - any fix would
> mean changing the way ATAPI works, including the
> most basic PACKET command protocol things going all
> the way back to SFF-8020!
...
> This has nothing to do with T13 or with the
> ATA/ATAPI-x standards (or even SFF-8020!).
...
> - again, not T13's problem.

I think this is mostly again the "ATAPI byte counting"
disagreement Hale is kindly helping me to resolve
offline ... so I won't deny it all elaborately.  In short:

Rounding Up I can defend from the T13 text as
published.   Having defended rounding Up is then an
excuse for rounding generally, even Down, though I gag
as I type that.

I'm thinking T13 can help much in a small, almost zero
cost, way, without breaking anything that exists
already.  In the field, I'm already solved in a few
different vendor-specific ways.  I'm just thinking
over time an open standard would benefit my employer
more.

> Anyone from this OS vendor care to comment about
> this?

I can't point you to a web page, but just from the
famous US$e+9 cash assets I'd guess that Microserfs:

"... work for a company whose exec's understand the
direct argument that they don't want anyone but PR
folk quoted as having spoken for the company, but
don't understand the indirect benefits of free
attributed discussion, merely because those benefits
are hard to quantify & predict.

"In that world, to reply person-to-person is to risk
your own interests for the benefit of the community,
and to reply-to-all is impossible.

Would be way cool if Microsoft folk could enter into
their bug parade what they learn here.

Would be more way cool if they could admit doing so.

But I know I've read the pointy-haired idea that
replying online builds an expectation of listening in
the future to which the employee must not commit the
company.  And I've read that disclaimers raise more
questions than they answer.

Binary code only is just plain hard to make work
right, hence the noisy efforts of all us parasites who
live off of the PC business that Intel & Microsoft &
Dell & co. generate.

> the way back to SFF-8020!

Oooh what fun, here we see Hale Landis (Hale Landis
!!) reference "SFF 8020"!!!!

Pat LaVarre

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