Dear Antonio, that's a great experiment....I'll be glad to get my hands on a L1+L2 20 Hz receiver some day....your results are far from a small progress, IMHO. :-)

How is turning out the comparison? how similar are both results for the same data?. It would be excellent that RTKLIB/RTKPOST could be validated with that level of data and experiments against those "well known top-level proffesional" (and very expensive) closed software suites, at least for some level of performance or for some defined applications.

Regarding the wireless testing, at our lab we have some "in the field" experience in data links on 400, 900 and 2400 Mhz (WiFi), so feel free to ask if you ever need some advice.

The theoretical concepts behind GNSS positioning are like diving: the deeper you go, the darker it gets, especially if the electromagnetic signals, carrier modulations, pseudorandom Gold codes correlation and phase shifts by the Doppler effect aren't on your everyday range of worries....(neither did I recalled all this stuff when I went diving on GNSS positioning trying to understand it, and as an electronic engineering student all those concepts should be "natural" for me, supposedly :-)....eventually I did decipher most of the "magic" behind this system, but when I got to face ambiguity resolution I just gave up....I'm hoping to find time again to dive THAT deep.....but now if the results are good enough to challenge commercial well known top level software-hardware, I'll be focusing on applications for it!

Best regards, thanks for that fast and complete answer, and good luck on your experiments.

Mauro Ugarte A.
Ingeniero de Desarrollo
División de Instrumentación Óptica y Tecnologías de Teledetección
Centro de Óptica y Fotónica
Universidad de Concepción
F/Fax: 2204740 | [email protected]


On 29/06/12 13:09, António Pestana wrote:
Dear Mauro

Sorry from my very long silence.

I'm still testing the use of RTKLIB/RTKPOST to simulate "real-time" kinematic positioning in structural monitoring. I'm afraid my progress is still small.

We have done some experiments on the top of a 110 meters high viaduct pier. At the time of this experiment the top of the pier could move freely. I've collected 20 Hz GPS L1+L2 RINEX data both on top of the pier and at a reference site, 1200 meters away. The processing of the RINEX files was done mainly using "fix and hold" integer ambiguity resolution strategy. I´ve got some interesting results:

a) A East-West 24-hours cycle oscillation was detected; I suppose that it was due to the effect on the pier of the apparent diurnal movement of the sun. b) We were able to extract, from the displacements of the top pf the pier, the first natural frequency of the pier (around 0.5 Hz)

For the last three months I have been conducting experiments to compare RTKPOST processing of RINEX files with the RTK output of a very well known top-level professional software (made by a very well known company). At the same time I have been testing the use of wireless radio antenas to conect the sation sites to the reference site.

Apart from this experiments I'm still strugling with some theoretical concepts regarding GNSS positioning. It is still not clear to me the exact meaning of a number of terms that I find here and there. I suppose that there is still no uniformity in naming some key concepts of high-precision (centimeter or sub-centimeter) GNSS positioning. And I still need to truly learn the fundamentals of high-precision real time GNSS positioning, namely the distinct ambiguity processing strategies and the different positioning modes used.

Regards

Antonio

2012/6/29 Mauro Ugarte Avilés <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

    Dear Antonio,

    It's been a while since we talked about RTKLIB and all those
    networking options.....how is it going?

    I would be glad to know something about your overall results, or
    some partial results regarding the monitoring of structures you
    where conducting.....I'm planning to learn a little bit of the
    absolute basics in the civil engineering fields where precise
    positioning could apply, particularly in the area of land
    surveying, in order to study possible solutions to some of it's
    requirements trough the use of rtklib.

    (Any other list memeber's comments about some experience in this
    particular application of precise positioning (RTK, PPP or even
    DGPS), are really welcome.)

    Best regards!

    Mauro Ugarte A.
    Ingeniero de Desarrollo
    División de Instrumentación Óptica y Tecnologías de Teledetección
    Centro de Óptica y Fotónica
    Universidad de Concepción
F/Fax: 2204740 |[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    On 26/10/11 19:05, António Pestana wrote:


    2011/10/26 Mauro Ugarte Avilés <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>


        Regarding that chapter, you should use as your network
        topology, the example 4 (Wifi) or 5 (mobile phone network),
        and replace on both of those examples the block "RTKNAVI" by
        Spider (and maybe move Spider to the "Base Station" or
        reference receiver's PC, and "STRSVR" to the remote
        receiver's PC) . If there is going to be line of sight
        between both locations, a Wireless Router or Access Point
        connected at the Base Station's PC Ethernet port (or
        wirelessly), an a USB wireless adapter with detachable
        antenna at the rover's PC (this one, for example:
        http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-WN722N),
        with both antennas (the AP/router and the USB adapter)
        replaced by a directional Wifi antenna like this one:
        
http://www.tiendecita.com/antena-wifi-planar-estanca-marca-abaks-p-99.html,
        should do it. (Note that the antenna does not include the
        coaxial cable needed to connect the antenna to the AP/router
        (that by the way has to have a detachable antenna also, in
        order to replace it), but that cable can be easily found on
        computer stores). The USB wireless adapter used at the remote
        receiver's PC should be placed inside the box behind the
        antenna, were the RP-SMA connector is.


    Once again very useful tips. Thanks.


        My fault, no examples...but at least RTKLIB has a
        manual....and there are screen captures on it!! At the GNSS
        positioning techniques FOSS world, those features are not
        very usual... ;-).


    Yes. I must agree with you. The manual is very good.

        Based on that brief descriptions, you would be able to find
        better explanations somewhere else: papers, doctorate theses,
        GNSS equipment manufacturers, etc.


    That's what I'm trying to do these days...

        You will be sensing large structures, right? In that case, I
        would go with "static" (static rover, static reference), not
        "moving-base" (moving rover, moving reference) nor "fixed"
        (constant distance between rover and base). Maybe you could
        go with kinematic too, if the real-time displacements and
        deflections of the structures studied can be considered as
        "movement".


    My structures move at relatively high frequencies (say from 0,1
    to 5 Hz). Most of the movements are small (a few centimeters at
    most).

    Best regards

    Antonio



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