hi ujjwal, imho, gettin troubles while using oss is a common thing. it's jus that we dont seem to admit it quite openly. ya there r problems with oss, but r any software free of problem? even the mac osx, which u seem to like very much, crashes..
first of all, price does matter. most of oss we use are free in terms of price too, so obviously developers dont have any obligation to make it upto guidelines n standards. but i think it's quite silly to shout for quality when u r gettin something for free (price).. n plz dont take the sheer number of linux distros as a problem. cmon dude we've lots of choices, isn't it a good thing? n dont look at linux/oss the same way u look at windows n mac. those os r optimized for high user friendliness but have low usability. it's the other way around in linux/oss. jus look the command like apps in linux n the power u achieve when u use them in pipes n scripts n all.. we've been pushed into the world of point, click n flashy graphics. but linux world doesn't work that way.. imho, the best of linux/oss are still in command line.. we all know ffmpeg, imagemagick, tex n the list goes on.. like they say, little knowledge is a dangerous thing. n since the learning curve is kinda steep with linux/oss that can even be fatal. i think it's the same with ur pendrive data loss incident. maybe u didn't care about properly unmounting the disk or issue a sync command. we (esp guys ;)) have a habit of reading manual only after things r broken. plz dont do that. like any os, linux or any oss have proper way of doin things, it's jus that it aint user friendly, but i think that's the price we pay for flexibility n cost. i dont want to offend u ujjwal, u're an excellent code writer, dedicated foss user n a hacker in its real meanings. plz dont get frustrated with oss. it's the pain n sufferings that motivates us to improve n move forward. oss r actually gettin better n i hope in a few years there wont be any more unhappy users.. regards, jwalanta. On Dec 2, 2007 8:04 PM, Ujwal (RUBBOT) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's a good part for us that we've been trusting many opensource > softwares for years and over. I hope we won't loose our trust for > another hundreds of years. However, sometime something happens which > let us think about trusting open-source deeply. last time when i got a > chance to look at Mac Os x human interface guide suddenly something > touched in me about Open-Source. What Mac developers thinks is, user > should never confuse on what they were using. It might be pressing a > button to showing a dialog box or even while configuring internet or > devices. The thing Mac is trying to convince their developers that > standardization is the most what lots of users want. We in the world > of linux got many softwares for Different types for different > purposes. We got many Desktop environments. Each and every one dealing > their users in their way. Now the point is a user never uses desktop > environment all the time he got. The thing is the software they got. > How about standardzing applications on linux, how about getting human > interface guidelines in Linux too (I know OLPC got one). what about > feeling no problem in configuring internet either in (suse, debian, > fedora etc). The same way in Everything. I know it's even harder to > standardize Linux, because of more than 1000 of different Distros..... > We can't say your are standard and you are the best. Might be we'll > get such more problem in linux, we'll are sure to solve each one. > presently I got another problem.... I thought Debian is one of my > Choice.. better in every aspect. Last time i couldn't be able to > compile my kernel in my way i used as in previous time. Later i got > "make-kpkg". I found my new kernel ready to go. Sooner during booting > i got problem no login ... just restarts x-server i couldn't be able > to get console login, found that kernel is trying to get keystrokes > and then print on console instead of giving me FULL access. Anyway not > rocket science problem. I used old kernel. everthing was back. later I > copied all my datas from Desktop to a 2 GiB pendrive . deleted > everything from my Desktop. after burning a disc. i backed everything > from pendrive to my Desktop. once again something is not good to me. > Each and every file is 0 byte. The most amazing thing is the filename > and properties is same beside nothing. I was not upset, even though > i'd loosed everything in pendrive too. there are some of my important > documents and i can't recover again. I thought it's my own fault. My > fault is I believed in something. I still want to believe it more. Now > i'm downloading ubuntu gusty (derived from debian). If the same cases > is for you and your using Debian then what would you wanna Do? > Believe me or Open-source. Still open-source softwares are best and > good.. still there is something we don't like. can we start to make > softwares(/linux) a standard as like W3C.. ? might be we can if we > tried. > regards > Ujwal ( as i found debian 4.0 rc0 and debian 4.0 rc1 are not stable > as it is written. Found 100% crashing in every computer i installed). > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: [email protected] http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
