It's been a gr8 follow-up, at least for me :) Rewinding, it all begun with the OLPC switch, at least there's where i caught it.
and then came along grandpa, grandma, >uncle< , dear brother. I guess the rest of the family is in holiday. Holidays are good, i like them. Somebody then asked for a pronounciation, and then was given a whole university lecture, haha. I also like the classes on socialist culture, gr8 nourishment for my brain too. I also learnt that a community brand wasn't a >brand< as compared to corporate brand. What was i thinking ? shake shake shake, and then we're again serious about OLPC hai. Easing then was nice ! ... ? Well ! Nice that there are no kids here to decide if they like sugar, salt, honey or blah, blah... so we can decide it for ourselves ! < -- this must be the best part, OR is it ? anyways, i think i like this place & guess i'm staying here for a while :) Hope u guys let me. On Apr 25, 9:44 pm, sarose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > nepbabu > > don't take it heartily. you seems to very hardcore guy. hell of > experince. thanks for sharing with me. > > i have really no clue replying your email. its technically > sophisticated. > > I am merely talking about the matter on Sugar and the bad choice of > tools not the design itself please > donot come to this level that you start mano-a-mano with your friends > and supporters. > > play sugar around and see the interface. i beg everyone to just go and > come up with your comments. there is > git repository available or try > http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/Quick_Start/Windows > > its good instead wasting our valuable time. like someone said earlier > forking will be a good idea. this will > be a good start. > > my best wishes with you. > > sarose > > On Apr 25, 4:28 pm, "nepbabu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thus spoke sarose on Thursday, 24 April 2008 at 6:57:19 -0700: > > > > I am not talking about Distro. I am not complaining the linux kernel > > > its modules and socialist culture. > > > Socialist culture? OK, Linux kernel is open to *quality* code. OK? get that > > right. If Mr. Sarosei is a quality programmer with quality patchset/code > > with viable need to be within the kernel, Linux kernel *will* open it's > > door to Mr. Sarosei. On the other hand, if it's a jackshit code, it'll > > remain closed to Mr. Sarosei forever. > > > > I am talking about Desktop. I am talking about end user not like you > > > geeks. > > > Ever heard of Coder friendly distribution called Debian? and end-user > > friendly distribution called Ubuntu? btw, Ubuntu 8.04 is out, You might > > want to give it a go. :) > > > > Lets switch off Linux Desktop. Lets talk about XO interface Sugar. Why > > > it failed? > > > > The basic problem of Sugar is not Sugar. They are sweet. The problem > > > is interface (horrible than Gnome). > > > > You know Children? We have been children. We need to have a massively > > > simplified user interface. All things lack on Sugar is wrong choice of > > > GUI (i.e GTK+) and script. They selected Python. You know how damn > > > slow is python especially with GTK+ binding (don't throw benchmark > > > here, i have with me!).. > > > Python afaik is the best rapid prototyping way of doing things I've ever > > learned. Show us your benchmarks. Talks are cheap, everyone can do it. Give > > us hard, real facts if you've got it. Otherwise STFU. > > > > I blame Sugar's slow and cryptic features for the outrageous decision > > > from Uncle Negroponte. Sugar is just annoying. > > > As with any engineering feat, it takes a programmer to be dedicated and > > have *brains* to actually program for Sugar. Sugar is NOT cryptic. If you > > want cryptic feature, try peeking at Linux kernel. Now that's what I called > > cryptic with all sorts of C/asm hacks (for good) thrown in. > > > > There are promising desktop players. Take an example of KDE and > > > Gnome. Perhaps, They could have unite together for better windows like > > > interface. Even after QT got under (L)GPL, their rooted divided > > > mentality is broadening like anything. > > > Choice is good and differentiation of a software product is no different. > > KDE is very friendly to Windows users. The default environment of KDE is > > very similar to Windows environment and there exist a port of KDE for > > windows if you wanna go try out. > > > > There is a serious rift between two community. Will you forget windows > > > against FOSS? You guys are fighting each other. I see hell of issue > > > with same vision different approach. Distro upon Distro. Mess upon > > > Mess. > > > See above about choice. Having a choice means I do not have to stick with > > one distro or one company. And also, having a rift within community doesn't > > mean it's necessarily bad. Every community has rifts. Even windows > > developers *within* Microsoft has rift (Btw, I won't comment on the quality > > of the end product here). > > > > Why don't Gnome and KDE stop bickering right away ! Get unite and > > > jointly develop a cool revamp GUI library to meet the standard of > > > Windows or MacOSX interface. Leveraging the power to develop Sugar a > > > real platform agnostic application. The desktop realm is changing so > > > rapidly...the rest of FOSS is fighting so aggressively. > > > Choice is good, a good way to promote healthy competition in OSS world. I > > am totally for it. Gnome and KDE are only 2 major desktop environment > > players in OSS world, there are plenty (don't worry) of them flux, ion, > > icewm, xfce... loads.. As I said, choice is good. > > > > Well in windows for sure our little genius kid gonna get de-facto web > > > standards - MP3, Flash, Java thats gonna be real fun. So many > > > features .. always fun in reading. These are proprietary with stupid > > > IP attached with it. But no matter what clinches, the only fact is we > > > need to make reading more interactive and more fun. > > > What in the name are you blabbering about? Windows? and standards? Gee, get > > a grip! First thing I know is that they want to create their own broken > > standards (then push for it) and release a software that's broken to > > support that broken standard. > > > [ ........... ] > > > -- > > Cheers, > > Bikal KC (Please use: nepbababucxspamfree_at_yahoo DOT ca) > > Journal:http://nepbabu.livejournal.com|| pubkey: see header > > "Rule 6: There is no Rule 6." - Rob Pike > > "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit > > atrocities." - François-Marie Arouet > > > application_pgp-signature_part > > 1KDownload --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: [email protected] http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
