nepbabu don't take it heartily. you seems to very hardcore guy. hell of experince. thanks for sharing with me.
i have really no clue replying your email. its technically sophisticated. I am merely talking about the matter on Sugar and the bad choice of tools not the design itself please donot come to this level that you start mano-a-mano with your friends and supporters. play sugar around and see the interface. i beg everyone to just go and come up with your comments. there is git repository available or try http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/Quick_Start/Windows its good instead wasting our valuable time. like someone said earlier forking will be a good idea. this will be a good start. my best wishes with you. sarose On Apr 25, 4:28 pm, "nepbabu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thus spoke sarose on Thursday, 24 April 2008 at 6:57:19 -0700: > > > > > I am not talking about Distro. I am not complaining the linux kernel > > its modules and socialist culture. > > Socialist culture? OK, Linux kernel is open to *quality* code. OK? get that > right. If Mr. Sarosei is a quality programmer with quality patchset/code with > viable need to be within the kernel, Linux kernel *will* open it's door to > Mr. Sarosei. On the other hand, if it's a jackshit code, it'll remain closed > to Mr. Sarosei forever. > > > I am talking about Desktop. I am talking about end user not like you > > geeks. > > Ever heard of Coder friendly distribution called Debian? and end-user > friendly distribution called Ubuntu? btw, Ubuntu 8.04 is out, You might want > to give it a go. :) > > > Lets switch off Linux Desktop. Lets talk about XO interface Sugar. Why > > it failed? > > > The basic problem of Sugar is not Sugar. They are sweet. The problem > > is interface (horrible than Gnome). > > > You know Children? We have been children. We need to have a massively > > simplified user interface. All things lack on Sugar is wrong choice of > > GUI (i.e GTK+) and script. They selected Python. You know how damn > > slow is python especially with GTK+ binding (don't throw benchmark > > here, i have with me!).. > > Python afaik is the best rapid prototyping way of doing things I've ever > learned. Show us your benchmarks. Talks are cheap, everyone can do it. Give > us hard, real facts if you've got it. Otherwise STFU. > > > I blame Sugar's slow and cryptic features for the outrageous decision > > from Uncle Negroponte. Sugar is just annoying. > > As with any engineering feat, it takes a programmer to be dedicated and have > *brains* to actually program for Sugar. Sugar is NOT cryptic. If you want > cryptic feature, try peeking at Linux kernel. Now that's what I called > cryptic with all sorts of C/asm hacks (for good) thrown in. > > > There are promising desktop players. Take an example of KDE and > > Gnome. Perhaps, They could have unite together for better windows like > > interface. Even after QT got under (L)GPL, their rooted divided > > mentality is broadening like anything. > > Choice is good and differentiation of a software product is no different. KDE > is very friendly to Windows users. The default environment of KDE is very > similar to Windows environment and there exist a port of KDE for windows if > you wanna go try out. > > > There is a serious rift between two community. Will you forget windows > > against FOSS? You guys are fighting each other. I see hell of issue > > with same vision different approach. Distro upon Distro. Mess upon > > Mess. > > See above about choice. Having a choice means I do not have to stick with one > distro or one company. And also, having a rift within community doesn't mean > it's necessarily bad. Every community has rifts. Even windows developers > *within* Microsoft has rift (Btw, I won't comment on the quality of the end > product here). > > > Why don't Gnome and KDE stop bickering right away ! Get unite and > > jointly develop a cool revamp GUI library to meet the standard of > > Windows or MacOSX interface. Leveraging the power to develop Sugar a > > real platform agnostic application. The desktop realm is changing so > > rapidly...the rest of FOSS is fighting so aggressively. > > Choice is good, a good way to promote healthy competition in OSS world. I am > totally for it. Gnome and KDE are only 2 major desktop environment players in > OSS world, there are plenty (don't worry) of them flux, ion, icewm, xfce... > loads.. As I said, choice is good. > > > Well in windows for sure our little genius kid gonna get de-facto web > > standards - MP3, Flash, Java thats gonna be real fun. So many > > features .. always fun in reading. These are proprietary with stupid > > IP attached with it. But no matter what clinches, the only fact is we > > need to make reading more interactive and more fun. > > What in the name are you blabbering about? Windows? and standards? Gee, get a > grip! First thing I know is that they want to create their own broken > standards (then push for it) and release a software that's broken to support > that broken standard. > > [ ........... ] > > -- > Cheers, > Bikal KC (Please use: nepbababucxspamfree_at_yahoo DOT ca) > Journal:http://nepbabu.livejournal.com|| pubkey: see header > "Rule 6: There is no Rule 6." - Rob Pike > "Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." > - François-Marie Arouet > > application_pgp-signature_part > 1KDownload --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ FOSS Nepal mailing list: [email protected] http://groups.google.com/group/foss-nepal To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Community website: http://www.fossnepal.org/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
