+1 nootan to show some light on the issue.
Regards ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>¸. Mr. Sagar Chhetri RMS - Gulf Warehousing Company www.sagarkshetri.com.np www.gaindakot.com www.sahakari.org www.chitwanix.com On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Nootan Ghimire <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello foss-nepal, > > I hope you all are having great time. I just wanted some of your time to > dive into this topic: > > I recently wrote a post in social medias regarding Ncell App Sansar and > Why I think it is violating Net Neutrality. Interested folks, please give > it a look. > > --------------------- > > 1. What is Net Neutrality? > > It is a concept in which we say that All Packets in any network should be > treated equally by an ISP. That is, no ISP should favor an individual > entity by transferring it for free (when others are charged heavily), or > giving it the possibility of high speed. > > 2. So, My ISP making access to servers in Nepal fast a violation? > > Not exactly, because it treats every packets that bounces in your country > to be fair and equal, because no any additional fees are required since > your data do not leave your country. i.e., it's like your home network > could be faster if you have that type of infrastructure - and is > independent of the connections you make to the outer world. Since servers > (cache-servers) of Google, and others reside inside our country, you are > able to stream youube videos fast (remember you have to refresh many times > in order to hit the right server). > > Clarification: I could be wrong in the facts mentioned above, in that > case: yes, it's against net neutrality too. > > 3. Why is Ncell against it then? What has it done? > > About a year ago, Ncell introduced onlinekhabar.com > <http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fonlinekhabar.com%2F&h=LAQEa-iZ4AQHbM1vZLj9giNSO6ZrfwoEaSh8VVVEiO69ueg&enc=AZPQ8qQ2EJCxZXj6JN6BVq5hQxX6roMBpESAJ7khnmK199FOi9oKvkmUBJfMV2UGLbwdAGCHSVV5jm2J2KR7V3nLabv8mvnTkUnnv96FiKKc8gw7_7sHQl-Kesczdy-MuNZ_MMVfvXPrWxtCCKzkO9We12EOfTbsb2crBKQrDGHQZA&s=1> > and setopati.com > <http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsetopati.com%2F&h=zAQHlhFfyAQGMMlN5de31exOOlLP0bNsmF3BnG_1fjqIcpA&enc=AZO5KwyRhgmUBpncxTVoxdl9IKSVmbHIN9C3nE6HI-mHJY0gG2fqlYC9d8bDQXWq_SEDH_IwsFcfgXjgM-E95UjjzLsn0TnUunlVZgSWNDZF-pKNHsOnFRDGzlIVwJPOsVg__sOvYaADgc7GxmFJ192JRWE-PmHz-eXTE70F242xZA&s=1> > free access in this network. I am not sure if that's still the case (I can > no longer access ncellsansar.com > <http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fncellsansar.com%2F&h=RAQGEcRvlAQGaes8q_bq-EZdf08uHLVgjjdlsJZUQzfLeuQ&enc=AZMC9Pg1B31i8rOs3Oy6OqjtRsn134LmKJD3FnAw7utAHqGvLf6eUIlzaXzEiEWySrcGaF5b9OkfZXeJ6i3m1Hm-rtA1Yvane9iYdwukiwJ_K5I9T0lvKcVUbE8zXMHFvMj7j0pUYIKZvG13GYAICF9RdzcdOID_DfeywYdEtdMA_g&s=1> > so I guess they discontinued it), but if it is: It does the following > things: > > a. Suppose you are a new entrepreneur and you open new News Portal. You > are so back in competition now, not because you are new, but because hey, > onlinekhabar and setopati are free, who gives a shit to others? > > b. You might have to approach other or same ISPs and offer them money > perhaps, so that access to your content is free. The circle continues. ISP > gets richer and richer. > > c. Not only existing ISPs get richer, the chance that new ISP will invest > is lessened, because hey ISP1 is giving all things for free. If I switch to > new ISP2, I'll have to pay for everything. So, ISP2 should implicitly make > the existing free services free. Since an ISP has to survive, you'll get > loads of bills to pay for other data you use. > > d. Gist: It's creating a seriously unhealthy competition. It's confusing. > It's tangling. It's playing with you. Showing you attractive offers at > first and pulling more money at the end. > > 4. If onlinekhabar and setopati (or whatever) is not free nowadays, then > why blame Ncell now - I am sure it won't make mistakes again? > > I would wish. But It has, again made a mistake. It recently launched an > App Store in which developers can put their Apps. And the tagline is, "If > you are on Ncell's network, you can download apps hosted in their store - > with no data charges". There are other app stores in Nepal too (and newer > can arrive, given the scenario with Google Play), but just like making > those news sites free hindered the growth of other news site, it would > hinder the growth of other store. It will also create an unhealthy > competition. > > You might get to download your cool app for free, but you then have to > restrict your option to chose a internet service provider based on > something so silly. ISPs should compete by making their services better and > fast - not by treating data unequal. > > Save Net Neutrality! > > ----------------- > > Do you agree that it violates Net Neutrality? 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