Just for note, all networks connected to NPIX <http://www.npix.net.np/> are 
low cost routes. Hence, ISPs can provide higher bandwidth to these 
networks. As Akamai CDN has a server in Nepal, and hence indirectly 
connected to NPIX, we experience faster downloads from Microsoft, Apple, 
etc and all other high-profile companies that use Akamai. Similar is the 
case of Youtube. 

As far as ISPs don't prioritize between local websites, I think Net 
Neutrality shouldn't be a problem. If I were to create a Twitter like 
service to compete with it, then I would have a problem because Ncell 
provides Twitter access for free. 

+1 for raising this issue.

On Sunday, September 27, 2015 at 12:56:56 AM UTC+5:45, nootan.ghimire wrote:
>
> Hello foss-nepal,
>
> I hope you all are having great time. I just wanted some of your time to 
> dive into this topic:
>
> I recently wrote a post in social medias regarding Ncell App Sansar and 
> Why I think it is violating Net Neutrality. Interested folks, please give 
> it a look.
>
> ---------------------
>
> 1. What is Net Neutrality?
>
> It is a concept in which we say that All Packets in any network should be 
> treated equally by an ISP. That is, no ISP should favor an individual 
> entity by transferring it for free (when others are charged heavily), or 
> giving it the possibility of high speed. 
>
> 2. So, My ISP making access to servers in Nepal fast a violation?
>
> Not exactly, because it treats every packets that bounces in your country 
> to be fair and equal, because no any additional fees are required since 
> your data do not leave your country. i.e., it's like your home network 
> could be faster if you have that type of infrastructure - and is 
> independent of the connections you make to the outer world. Since servers 
> (cache-servers) of Google, and others reside inside our country, you are 
> able to stream youube videos fast (remember you have to refresh many times 
> in order to hit the right server). 
>
> Clarification: I could be wrong in the facts mentioned above, in that 
> case: yes, it's against net neutrality too.
>
> 3. Why is Ncell against it then? What has it done?
>
> About a year ago, Ncell introduced onlinekhabar.com 
> <http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fonlinekhabar.com%2F&h=LAQEa-iZ4AQHbM1vZLj9giNSO6ZrfwoEaSh8VVVEiO69ueg&enc=AZPQ8qQ2EJCxZXj6JN6BVq5hQxX6roMBpESAJ7khnmK199FOi9oKvkmUBJfMV2UGLbwdAGCHSVV5jm2J2KR7V3nLabv8mvnTkUnnv96FiKKc8gw7_7sHQl-Kesczdy-MuNZ_MMVfvXPrWxtCCKzkO9We12EOfTbsb2crBKQrDGHQZA&s=1>
>  
> and setopati.com 
> <http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsetopati.com%2F&h=zAQHlhFfyAQGMMlN5de31exOOlLP0bNsmF3BnG_1fjqIcpA&enc=AZO5KwyRhgmUBpncxTVoxdl9IKSVmbHIN9C3nE6HI-mHJY0gG2fqlYC9d8bDQXWq_SEDH_IwsFcfgXjgM-E95UjjzLsn0TnUunlVZgSWNDZF-pKNHsOnFRDGzlIVwJPOsVg__sOvYaADgc7GxmFJ192JRWE-PmHz-eXTE70F242xZA&s=1>
>  
> free access in this network. I am not sure if that's still the case (I can 
> no longer access ncellsansar.com 
> <http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fncellsansar.com%2F&h=RAQGEcRvlAQGaes8q_bq-EZdf08uHLVgjjdlsJZUQzfLeuQ&enc=AZMC9Pg1B31i8rOs3Oy6OqjtRsn134LmKJD3FnAw7utAHqGvLf6eUIlzaXzEiEWySrcGaF5b9OkfZXeJ6i3m1Hm-rtA1Yvane9iYdwukiwJ_K5I9T0lvKcVUbE8zXMHFvMj7j0pUYIKZvG13GYAICF9RdzcdOID_DfeywYdEtdMA_g&s=1>
>  
> so I guess they discontinued it), but if it is: It does the following 
> things:
>
> a. Suppose you are a new entrepreneur and you open new News Portal. You 
> are so back in competition now, not because you are new, but because hey, 
> onlinekhabar and setopati are free, who gives a shit to others?
>
> b. You might have to approach other or same ISPs and offer them money 
> perhaps, so that access to your content is free. The circle continues. ISP 
> gets richer and richer.
>
> c. Not only existing ISPs get richer, the chance that new ISP will invest 
> is lessened, because hey ISP1 is giving all things for free. If I switch to 
> new ISP2, I'll have to pay for everything. So, ISP2 should implicitly make 
> the existing free services free. Since an ISP has to survive, you'll get 
> loads of bills to pay for other data you use. 
>
> d. Gist: It's creating a seriously unhealthy competition. It's confusing. 
> It's tangling. It's playing with you. Showing you attractive offers at 
> first and pulling more money at the end. 
>
> 4. If onlinekhabar and setopati (or whatever) is not free nowadays, then 
> why blame Ncell now - I am sure it won't make mistakes again?
>
> I would wish. But It has, again made a mistake. It recently launched an 
> App Store in which developers can put their Apps. And the tagline is, "If 
> you are on Ncell's network, you can download apps hosted in their store - 
> with no data charges". There are other app stores in Nepal too (and newer 
> can arrive, given the scenario with Google Play), but just like making 
> those news sites free hindered the growth of other news site, it would 
> hinder the growth of other store. It will also create an unhealthy 
> competition. 
>
> You might get to download your cool app for free, but you then have to 
> restrict your option to chose a internet service provider based on 
> something so silly. ISPs should compete by making their services better and 
> fast - not by treating data unequal. 
>
> Save Net Neutrality!
>
> -----------------
>
> Do you agree that it violates Net Neutrality? Or Have Different Thoughts? 
> Please Reply and Share your thoughts with the community! 
>
>
> -- 
> Nootan Ghimire
> http://cafecod.es/
> [email protected] <javascript:>
> [email protected] <javascript:>
>

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