Good going! My best wishes for the upcoming activities of FOSS Nepal! Let me know if I could be of any help.
Cheers, Subir On 25 Jan. 2018 3:13 am, "Sagar Chhetri" <[email protected]> wrote: > Namastey, > > Momentum is on. > > Regards > > ><((((º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><((((º>¸. > > Mr. Sagar Chhetri > *www.sagarchhetri.com.np* <http://www.sagarchhetri.com.np> > *www.chitwanix.com* <http://www.chitwanix.com> > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 8:23 AM, Dadhiram <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks for the mail. >> >> >> On Jan 23, 2018 20:23, "Hempal Shrestha" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> It was a great meeting on January 19, 2018 at SAP Falcha. Thanks for >>> those who showed up for the face-to-face meeting. Here is a brief outline >>> of the discussion and action items from the meeting. >>> >>> *Present in the meeting* >>> >>> 1. Sushma Giri >>> 2. Arjun Gautam >>> 3. Nikesh Balami >>> 4. Manish Marahatta >>> 5. Suraj Sapkota Sata “Freeman” >>> 6. Rumi Rajbhandari >>> 7. Ravi Bhattarai >>> 8. Hempal Shrestha >>> 9. अभिनाश कुण्डलिया >>> 10. Sanjog Singel >>> 11. Surit Aryal >>> 12. Manish Jung Thapa >>> 13. Rhoit Man Amatya >>> 14. Rupak Raj Rajghimire >>> 15. Kapil Raj Nakhwa >>> 16. Ashutosh Dhoj Joshi >>> 17. Avash Mulmi >>> 18. Budhiraj Tuladhar >>> 19. Sagun Dhakhwa >>> 20. Shirsti Baral >>> >>> *Topics for Discussion* >>> >>> 1. Re-activation of FOSS Nepal legal entity >>> 2. Re-activation of the FOSS Nepal Community Activities >>> 3. Closing Remarks >>> >>> *Discussions* >>> >>> 1. *Re-activation of FOSS Nepal legal entity- *Picking up from the >>> previous meeting, the discussion primarily focused on proposing 11 >>> community members who can commit time and energy and would than take up >>> the >>> responsibility to renew and activate the legal official entity of the >>> FOSS >>> Nepal Community. After a round of discussion and representative >>> selection >>> process, 11 community members listed below in the decision were >>> identified >>> and proposed to take up the responsibility of legal entity of FOSS Nepal. >>> 2. *Re-activation of the FOSS Nepal Community*- The activities that >>> need to be taken forward to re-activate the FOSS Nepal were discussed and >>> listed in the action items below. These items will be discussed in >>> one-by-one in the upcoming meetings and worked ahead for the conclusive >>> outcome. >>> 3. *Closing Remarks-* The members who were present there shared >>> their personal aspirations as to how the community should evolve in >>> coming >>> days. The action items coming from these closing remarks have been >>> documented in the decisions and action items. >>> >>> *Decisions and Action Item* >>> >>> 1. Eleven Community members who have shown commitment and were >>> selected to take up the responsibilities of FOSS Nepal legal entity will >>> take up the renewal process and function as the Committee Members. >>> 1. Sagun Dhakhwa >>> 2. Sushmita Pote >>> 3. Basanta Shrestha >>> 4. Hempal Shrestha >>> 5. Avash Mulmi >>> 6. Rumi Rajbhandari >>> 7. Sushma Giri >>> 8. Manish Marahatha >>> 9. Kapil Raj Nakhwa >>> 10. Ravi Bhattarai >>> 11. Nikesh Balami >>> 2. The above-proposed community members to take up the >>> responsibility of the legal official responsibility of FOSS Nepal >>> Community >>> and perform their respective roles. >>> 3. Monthly Meeting of the Legal Team and participation of the >>> community observers to be conducted – Sagun, Avinash, Avash >>> 1. On every last Saturday at 12:30 PM @ SAP Falcha (Odd month of >>> English Calendar) >>> 2. On every last Friday at 5:30 PM @ SAP Falcha (Even month of >>> English Calendar) >>> 3. The Venue and timing might change as per the need. >>> 4. Work out for new tools for FOSS Nepal sustainability – Kapil, >>> Rupak >>> 5. Creation and application of Viber Group for communication- Hempal >>> 6. Standard Operating Procedures (SOP) for working with the FOSS >>> Nepal community and legal entity – Avinash >>> 7. Sharing of previous learnings – Sagun >>> 8. Identify and designate new representatives for >>> 1. New Provinces (7) – Sagun >>> 2. Colleges / Academic Institutions – Sanjog >>> 3. Local Communities - >>> 4. Other Institutions - >>> 9. Formalize membership -To discuss >>> 10. Revise and revisit the Technical Stuffs that FOSS Nepal >>> Community has been doing – Rhoit >>> 11. Activate bigger collaboration to assist FOSS Nepal becomes power >>> developer and contributor to Open Source movement – Rohit , Shristi >>> 12. Mentorship and make financial resource generation for FOSS >>> Nepal- Ravi , Sagun >>> 13. Discuss the meeting agenda on the wiki and mailing list >>> 14. Make FOSS Nepal Calendar for 2018 - All >>> 15. Work support the Nepal Government on FOSS, Work with 754 Local >>> government units as well. >>> >>> >>> *Closing Remarks* >>> The Final closing remarks were shared by all the participants. Some of >>> the issues which were raised has been listed in the action items as well. >>> >>> *Next Metting on:* >>> >>> *Date:* January 27, 2018 (Saturday) / Magh 13, 2074 - Last Saturday of >>> every odd month (January - 01) >>> *Time: *12:30 - 2:30 PM >>> *Venue:* SAP Falcha, Babarmahal, Kathmandu, Nepal >>> *Location Map*: http://bit.ly/2FiuPK5 >>> *Topics / Agenda for Discussion*: >>> >>> 1. Responsibilities deligation for legal entity >>> 2. FOSS Nepal Calendar for 2018 >>> 3. Let's discuss >>> >>> I look forward for contributions and feedback, with kind regards, >>> >>> *Hempal Shrestha* >>> *Volunteer - FOSS Nepal Community* >>> >>> >>> G.P.O Box: 5501 | Kathmandu, Nepal >>> Contact: +977-1-4261459 <+977%201-4261459> (Office) >>> Cell: +977-9851077031 <+977%20985-1077031> | +977-9808166400 >>> <(980)%20816-6400> >>> Skype: hempalshrestha | Viber: +977-9851077031 <+977%20985-1077031> >>> >>> >>> [image: --] >>> >>> Hempal Shrestha >>> [image: http://]about.me/hempalshrestha >>> <http://about.me/hempalshrestha> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:07 PM, Hempal Shrestha < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Nootan and All,, >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Nootan Ghimire < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regarding Issues about Entity, I think that should be isolated with >>>>> other parts of this discussion. Maybe just call for the people who are >>>>> willing to assume the responsibilities, recognize them and move on. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, I will also agree with your that we must deal with these two >>>> issues saperately. It will give us more clarity and purpose for the >>>> activities. Lets work out the details and try to revive the good >>>> practices. >>>> >>>> Kind regards >>>> >>>> Hempal Shrestha >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On the account of moving on/structuring, My 2 cents are: >>>>> >>>>> - Lets Prepare a list of goals that we want to achieve as a FOSS >>>>> community in nepal. (I can see there are five objectives listed on the >>>>> wiki, maybe we need to revisit it again?) >>>>> - Lets also prioritize those goals >>>>> - Lets create action plans to achieve these goals (through community >>>>> interaction, calling for ideas, basically talking about why and how), with >>>>> room to add more. >>>>> - Lets make sure that anything and everything we do aligns to those >>>>> goals. (Which should also be a indicator to how successful we were on our >>>>> respective priorities) >>>>> - Lets reflect on ourselves periodically, recognizing and analyzing >>>>> our actions, publishing them, and making amends. >>>>> >>>>> As such, I say lets create a detailed process of how we do things "The >>>>> FOSS Nepal way". Lets throw a bunch of "why?"s to anything and everything >>>>> we're planning to do, answer them and make sure everyone knows that. >>>>> >>>>> I'm also willing to take part in such discussions. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Saroj Dhakal <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm excited to see these discussions. >>>>>> >>>>>> Already great ideas have come, let's short list them and build >>>>>> community consensus on it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm willing to contribute as much as I can, but unfortunately I'll >>>>>> not be able to take part in the meeting today because of an activity >>>>>> planned last week. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please accept my apologies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let's do it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Saroj >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 18, 2018 1:10 AM, "Sanjog Sigdel" <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *++Adding Aadesh dai and Samar dai in the loop( They are the ones >>>>>>> who introduce to the FOSS world :) )* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adding to Prabin Sir's Point. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wouldn't it help if we also initiate FOSS NEPAL REGIONAL AMBASSADORS >>>>>>> and COLLEGE AMBASSADORS? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Back in SFD 2015, there was a point during group discussion session >>>>>>> which is "*Decentralizing FOSS activities in every possible corner >>>>>>> of country to spread Open Philosophy*". I believe it is only >>>>>>> possible if we recognize *contributors, communities and colleges *all >>>>>>> over Nepal. Organization like Teach For Nepal has TFN College >>>>>>> Ambassadors. >>>>>>> Those Ambassadors act as a mediator between Colleges and TFN to organize >>>>>>> events and promote campaigns. >>>>>>> - Via these Ambassadors we can do back and forth communication among >>>>>>> Communities and colleges. >>>>>>> - College Ambassadors can share any updates from-to FOSS Nepal, help >>>>>>> in providing resources from FOSS Nepal while their college Communities >>>>>>> are >>>>>>> organizing events >>>>>>> - Regional Ambassadors can act as mediators between Open Source >>>>>>> Communities of a particular region, College Ambassadors among that >>>>>>> region >>>>>>> and FOSS Nepal. >>>>>>> - We can assign one member from each colleges for College Ambassadors >>>>>>> - Regional Ambassadors can be chosen based upon particular regions. >>>>>>> Just to make sure these ambassadors have proportionately handful of >>>>>>> communities and College Communities to work with. >>>>>>> - Let us also set a milestone of initiating small communities in new >>>>>>> colleges and communities with proper co-ordination among College, >>>>>>> Communities and their respective Ambassadors. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This month some of us Volunteers listed FOSS communities of Nepal in >>>>>>> this repo: FOSS-COMMUNITIES-OF-NEPAL >>>>>>> <https://github.com/FOSSKavre/FOSS-COMMUNITIES-OF-NEPAL>. We were >>>>>>> able to list 22 of them. WOW :) >>>>>>> But sad part is that some communities exists only as Names. So we >>>>>>> might at least be able revamping our existing communities. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - I see this Concept of Ambassador as a way to gain core >>>>>>> contributors in FOSS Nepal. And it will also help in building a >>>>>>> organizational structure for Outreach Purpose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So why not give it a try? >>>>>>> हामीले पनि नगरे कस्ले गर्ला हैन त ? :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PS: Prabin dai - Last September KUOSC le organize gareko SFD 2017 >>>>>>> maa ma lagayat kehi Kavre ko Volunteers haru milera FOSS KAVRE suru >>>>>>> gareu >>>>>>> :). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *SanjogSigdel* >>>>>>> *Dhulikhel, Nepal* >>>>>>> *Volunteer- KUOSC, FOSS NEPAL* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Founder- FOSS KAVRE* >>>>>>> *M:977-9841497866 <984-1497866>* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:14 PM, Prabin Gautam < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adding to Bobby's Suggestions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lets also think of FOSS Nepal Ambassadors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal members who are abroad and still willing/interested to >>>>>>>> contribute can be made FOSS Nepal Ambassadors. They can involve their >>>>>>>> network to bring project, program or do fundraise for the community. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know Core FOSSians like Subir dai, Jwalanta, Abhishek, Akash, >>>>>>>> myself, and many more are all around the world now. We should use this >>>>>>>> potential and their network to take FOSS Nepal forward. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Bobby Basnet <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Hempal dai for the note and adding me in this thread. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would love to join in the meeting tomorrow but I already have >>>>>>>>> other scheduled meeting and won't be able to make it. So, I would >>>>>>>>> like to >>>>>>>>> voice my say in this email. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On the Polls: >>>>>>>>> *Q1: *Yes, Definitely. >>>>>>>>> *Q2: *No (Will follow and not lead and cannot make any commitment >>>>>>>>> for 3 months at-least) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And here are my suggestions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *1. Get more professors/teacher involved in the community.* >>>>>>>>> From my experience being involved with the community, I have seen >>>>>>>>> that the most active members are the students. As they graduate and >>>>>>>>> move on >>>>>>>>> with their lives their involvement with the community is almost >>>>>>>>> non-existent. So if we could get more professors involved in the >>>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>>> who could advocate FOSS to their students this will produce a >>>>>>>>> continuous >>>>>>>>> batch of workforce who have the time and the energy to keep the >>>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>>> momentum going. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Action Plan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Reach out to the professors/teachers in our >>>>>>>>> immediate contact and add them to the mailing list/Facebook >>>>>>>>> Group/Viber >>>>>>>>> Group so they are at-least informed about the community events and >>>>>>>>> updates >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Create a team that would visit universities and colleges >>>>>>>>> and meet the professors, make them aware about the FOSS community >>>>>>>>> and add >>>>>>>>> them to the community channels. It would be difficult to create >>>>>>>>> team that >>>>>>>>> would travel to each colleges. So this could be integrated with >>>>>>>>> events such >>>>>>>>> as Linux Talk, FOSS ka Kura, Hour of Code, etc where community >>>>>>>>> memeber are >>>>>>>>> are normally already willing to visit the campus as a resource >>>>>>>>> person . They could be FOSS Nepal representative and we could >>>>>>>>> provide with >>>>>>>>> a formal letter in FOSS Nepal letterhead to make it seem more >>>>>>>>> official. We >>>>>>>>> should also have a template of such meeting, where we set agenda >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> immediate actions plans >>>>>>>>> *. * >>>>>>>>> - During events like SFD there is a always a praise worthy >>>>>>>>> collaboration among students from different institutions. It would >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> better to get even different institutions involved and if not that >>>>>>>>> at-least professor level collaboration too on such events >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *2. More open source projects. * >>>>>>>>> Re-quoting Avash "FOSS doesn't mean only Linux". We should have >>>>>>>>> more FOSS projects in our Github repo. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Action Plan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Encourage students to publish their project. >>>>>>>>> Each semester hundreds in not thousands of software are >>>>>>>>> developed by students from different colleges and universities. >>>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>>> develop the software, get graded and then are stored on the >>>>>>>>> students's >>>>>>>>> machine for ever. If we could advocate to these students that there >>>>>>>>> projects need not have this faith. If only they pushed their >>>>>>>>> project to >>>>>>>>> Github Repo with a FOSS license, their project could have more >>>>>>>>> visibility, >>>>>>>>> could have real life implementation and potentially have other >>>>>>>>> contribute >>>>>>>>> to their projects and their legacy live on for ever. These >>>>>>>>> projects are >>>>>>>>> usually not made for commercial profit making use so they should be >>>>>>>>> reluctant to publish their project. (Question though!!! Should we >>>>>>>>> judge the >>>>>>>>> quality of code and project? I vote No) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *3. Have more fun* >>>>>>>>> While a student at Kathmandu University on SFD eve we had open >>>>>>>>> discussion talks on FOSS. What is FOSS? What are it's merits? What >>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>> be it's demerits? We also had candle walk, painting (logos of any >>>>>>>>> Free and >>>>>>>>> Open Software or anything that represents it) and Musical event. It >>>>>>>>> helped >>>>>>>>> us to create an image that we FOSSians are not just geeks with Linux >>>>>>>>> in our >>>>>>>>> computer. We are also friendly people who like music and to make >>>>>>>>> friends >>>>>>>>> and watch movies and have lovely conversation. Such event helped more >>>>>>>>> people be aware about our community and made them easier to approach >>>>>>>>> us. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As a result, we had relatively large FOSS Community there and >>>>>>>>> even if not part of community still lot of people in the campus were >>>>>>>>> aware >>>>>>>>> about the FOSS movement. It is something we could learn and implement >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal as well. Moreover we also need to attract non-programmer >>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>> to our community ( who could contribute us in documentation, >>>>>>>>> designing, >>>>>>>>> administration or anything really). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Action Plan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Promote FOSS not only with technical presentations and talks >>>>>>>>> but also with documentaries, movies that are made with FOSS tools, >>>>>>>>> friendly >>>>>>>>> non-formal meetups, MEME, musical events, etc >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *4. Linkup with International FOSS Communities, Chapters * >>>>>>>>> Lets link up with national and international FOSS communities and >>>>>>>>> other community that believe and promote FOSS ideology (Eg. Mozilla, >>>>>>>>> Open >>>>>>>>> Data, Wikimedia). They might have programs, collaboration proposal or >>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>> lessons for us that will help our community grow. We have our glorious >>>>>>>>> history of best SFD celebrations globally. Maybe the veterans from the >>>>>>>>> community can remember of some forgotten link with such communities. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Action Plan >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Identify relevant communities, chapters, clubs both >>>>>>>>> nationally and internationally and establish communication channel >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>>>> - Index the communities that we have communication with and >>>>>>>>> Invite them to our events and meetups >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am sad that I won't be able to attend the meeting tomorrow and >>>>>>>>> would be really happy if received similar note on tomorrow's meeting. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>> Bob >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Bobby Basnet >>>>>>>>> Managing Director, Semantic Creation >>>>>>>>> <http://www.semanticcreation.com/> >>>>>>>>> Managing Director, VisualiseVR <http://www.visualisevr.com/> >>>>>>>>> Mobile: +977 9841812820 <+977%20984-1812820> >>>>>>>>> Skype: bobbize >>>>>>>>> Kathmandu, Nepal >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:40 PM, Arjun Gautam < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I feel very happy to find that we all are interested in this. >>>>>>>>>> Hope, to have a good meeting tomorrow. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Arjun >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:33 PM, [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> me too, who else would be there >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 17 January 2018 at 14:32, manish thapa < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will be there >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:48 PM, Pravin Raj Joshi < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Please do let me know if you all feel I can be of any help in >>>>>>>>>>>>> any program or carrying out an activity. I am up for it. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pravin >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 01/17/2018 11:00 AM, Prabin Gautam wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy to see good discussion going. Once we start and gain >>>>>>>>>>>>> some momentum, we may partner with various organizations - >>>>>>>>>>>>> governmental, >>>>>>>>>>>>> universities and public or private organizations. To deal with >>>>>>>>>>>>> them, just a >>>>>>>>>>>>> bunch of FOSSian will not be enough. Our Legal entity should be >>>>>>>>>>>>> in place. >>>>>>>>>>>>> All of you know this and I strongly would emphasis on getting >>>>>>>>>>>>> renewed in >>>>>>>>>>>>> first phase. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In tomorrow's meeting, I wont be there but I expect the team >>>>>>>>>>>>> to come with at least 2 concrete plans - >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Where you see FOSS Nepal in 3 months >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Where you see FOSS Nepal in 1 year. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, in three months we can at least do and not >>>>>>>>>>>>> limited to: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Renew FOSS Nepal and be legal >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. have atleast 3 monthly meeting to track progress. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Update Web presence (Wiki/website), Bring our social >>>>>>>>>>>>> networking tools to life - twitter, facebook page, youtube. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. revive our Youtube FOSS NP Weekly program. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the more event we organize, more involve we can be, >>>>>>>>>>>>> more volunteers, more spreading of FOSS, and more impact we can >>>>>>>>>>>>> create. Few >>>>>>>>>>>>> years back we started to bring all our Open Community in one >>>>>>>>>>>>> place with a >>>>>>>>>>>>> consortium which was another great idea but didnot progress on >>>>>>>>>>>>> that. Once >>>>>>>>>>>>> we get back to momentum we can definitely use that platform to >>>>>>>>>>>>> involve more >>>>>>>>>>>>> people and organizations. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think our 1 year should be and not limited to: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Annual Open Technology meetup (reviving FOSS Info Mela >>>>>>>>>>>>> !! or developer's meetup type of program) 4/6 months to >>>>>>>>>>>>> SFD(Between >>>>>>>>>>>>> March-May) . >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Annual SFD >>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Few Concrete projects >>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Reviving our Involvement in National ICT Activities as >>>>>>>>>>>>> stakeholder. like IT policy meetings, IT Curriculum, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Conferences, Seminars, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Panel discussions. >>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Continuing regular programs like FKK and FOSS NP weekly >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Openthito >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 9:47 PM, Dadhiram < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> फोसमा आस्थाराख्ने उर्जासिल अभियान्ताहरू >>>>>>>>>>>>>> नमस्कार >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Paani Saffa Garnu Paryo ra Baani Sudharnu Paryo". >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Action Item 3- Like bagmati को पानी । अहिले धेरै सुध्रिएको >>>>>>>>>>>>>> छ । संखमुलमा चराहरू बाँच्न थालेकाछन् । त्यसैले हामीले पनि आफुलाई >>>>>>>>>>>>>> हिट गर्न >>>>>>>>>>>>>> लागेको कुरा केहि छ भने गरौ । कमुनिटिहो सकारात्मक सामुहिक हितको >>>>>>>>>>>>>> लागि केहि >>>>>>>>>>>>>> गरौ भन्ने सबैमा हुन्छ । गर्न केहि नसकेनि गफ गर्न एउटा फोरम >>>>>>>>>>>>>> चाहिन्छ नै त्यो >>>>>>>>>>>>>> अहिले नै छदैछ । सपार्न नसके नि बिगार्न हुन्न अहिले नि बिगारेको >>>>>>>>>>>>>> केहि छैन । >>>>>>>>>>>>>> समुदाय एउटा मानविय उर्जाहो प्रयोग गरेर घट्दैन बड्छ । जागौ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> आजैबाट केहि गरौ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> गर्नसके राम्रो गरौ नसके केहि नबिगारौ । गर्न पर्ने कुरा सबै >>>>>>>>>>>>>> लिस्टेड छ । मेरो >>>>>>>>>>>>>> आफ्नो उर्जा यति नै हो । * >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *धन्यवाद * >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *दधि * >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:49 AM, Sanjog Sigdel < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Hempal Dai and Fossians, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Happy to see the discussions and updates about FOSS NEPAL. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our community is actually lagging behind while communities that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> composed of Volunteers from FOSS NEPAL are doing great. It is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good point to see communities fostering and spreading our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> common goal of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raising awareness about Open Philosophy. But then, at the same >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no clue in any milestone these communities achieve, if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> credited ? And also FOSS Nepal is lagging commitment, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributions and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> initiators which I think will be resolved if we keep continuing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like these and also reach to some conclusions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be there at tomorrow's meeting and will give my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commitment to take responsibility of leading at least one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project this 2018. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *SanjogSigdel * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Dhulikhel, Nepal* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *M:977-9841497866 <984-1497866>* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Volunteer:- KUOSC, FOSS NEPAL * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Founder:- FOSS KAVRE * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Pravin Raj Joshi < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might not be able to make it to the meeting tomorrow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evening. Picking up from the questions that were written in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hempal Ji's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notes below are my comments and thoughts. I am a little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrated in that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others are blatantly saying things that should be contributed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to FOSS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> movement in Nepal, but people are taking charge of it. So I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little offensive. Please take it with a pinch of salt. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is Legal Entity? What did it do? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What is talk of legal entity, when there is bare presence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A legal entity matters if big enough so that it is visible. It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is good to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have legal setup and all in place, but what is the value of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, if we get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all that, but the organization barely functions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where are WE (BIG Question Mark ??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are kinda stuck because he thought and even now think >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too small. It is time to become a vocal movement. Software, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> security, data >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- all needs to be worked on. I saw an email thread where it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was said that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> open data movement in Nepal started in 2011-2012. That is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shame for FOSS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal and personally for me as no one even raised a voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against it. What >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is open data? -- it is the idea that some data should be made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publicly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available for public good. Who started this in Nepal??? I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not claiming >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is FOSS Nepal or me. There are a lot of people who have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributed to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this from 1998-2012, who are just lost from that conversation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If nothing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> else, let's get the history right or even start a debate on it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Renewal For (What) ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is not a matter of concern at all. Renewal is just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part of administrative process and shouldn't even come up for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hand-over community and Lead-Legal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hand over to whom??? We have seen multiple organizations in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last 17 years try to use FOSS for their own gains only. Do you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to hand >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over to them? Or to people whose primary interest is their own >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> growth? I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can, will not name, many people who have benefitted from this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> often claimed to me, in the face, that they can contributed so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS, but only thing that I see is their own direct benefit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with literally >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing for FOSS Nepal. These people will readily take up FOSS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal as it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means more for them. So kindly give me 5 names that all will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be comfortable >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to hand over FOSS Nepal to. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Similar Structure or New Structure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why does structure matter when there is nothing happening? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it better go out and talk FOSS or is it better to sit down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and think on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership - Updation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership will not happen when we are weak and people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> claim they are better and we cannot do anything about it. Due >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weakness companies now are flagship bearers for FOSS in Nepal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and organizations promoting FOSS will go to them. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Need a strong FOSS working team, How do we make it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now we need vocal team, who is able to shout, write >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and talk trash if need be to convince people that FOSS is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already relevant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for Nepal and FOSS Nepal is the spearhead of it. Many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organizations have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> started putting FOSS Nepal as a by-product to their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> achievements. We need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get out and provide ideas, support and help for FOSS in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nepal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How active is the Community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Community needs to be made active. Community will not be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> active if organization is not active -- "Paani ra Baani sadhai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mathi bata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tala bagcha". If we sit down and discuss, so will the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community. If we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actively engage, so will the community. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for being a little critical, but I am really >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustrated at organizations and people claiming their >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribution to FOSS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and reaping the benefit from it shamelessly utlizing it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My thoughts would be to update the team with people we can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find, mainly vocal ones. Create a set of programs that we can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute to and make it happen. I am pretty sure each one of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> us now is at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a stage where we can afford 5000-10000 rupees (one time) to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contribute to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOSS Nepal and help with initial push to change things. Also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we are at a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stage where we can all come up with 1-2 program ideas, which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> collectively pitch in and then we can create a small committee >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decide on the programs to carry out in coming year. Also we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can all set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aside sometime to contribute to FOSS Nepal. Who will do it, if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't??? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More thoughts, but I would prefer to follow others rather >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than lead. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pravin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Prabin Gautam >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> - MJT >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> "Jesus had only 12 followers, but they were very good retweeters." >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - check my blog @ http://mjt.com.np >>>>>>>>>>>> - twitter @mjt_emp3r0r <https://twitter.com/mjt_emp3r0r> >>>>>>>>>>>> -volunteer @open community >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *DISCLAIMER* >>>>>>>>>>>> This email contains confidential information and is intended >>>>>>>>>>>> only for the individual named. 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