I mean no disrespect to anyone. Unfortunately, this all hinges on strength of 
character. I am confident that many are like me and little experience with any 
of these users. I can muddle through Portuguese, so if someone can point me to 
where discussion broke down or where there is proof, then we will have 
something to go on. 




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From: Aphaia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:06:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians

Geoffrey,
I have been working with Luis and other guys as translators for years.
Their devotion is much appreciated and I know them thoughtful, patient
and experience Wikimedians who are deeply concerned about their
project and thus its relationship to the real world.

Personally I am afraid Jimmy is too relying on his personal recent
experience and tend to weigh less those people from the lusophone
editing community than it should be, specially in the circumstance no
objection toward them and support for the "chapter guys" has come from
the editing community. "Believe me, he is a good guy" is no strong
argument at least for me which esteem those wikipedian's long
experience, devotion and their usual patient attitude to deal with
things.

Cheers,

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Geoffrey Plourde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you are convinced that this is not personal, and that there is an issue, 
> then please provide evidence. Otherwise, this looks like bunch of people who 
> are unhappy because their proposal wasn't passed.
>
> Geoffrey Plourde
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Porantim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:40:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] A local chapter without Wikimedians
>
> Jimmy, again, the problem isn't personal. Please, dont't try to take this
> way.
>
> -- Porantim
>
>
> 2008/11/25 Jimmy Wales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> Porantim wrote:
>> > The point here is: Thomas is one of the people who deny the debate. This
>> is
>> > the fact.
>> >
>> > Of course I want Thomas close to us, fighting with us, but I cant't
>> believe
>> > in dictatorship.
>> >
>> > If you really want to help us, you can speak with your friend Thomas
>> about
>> > those problemas. What do you think?
>>
>> In my experience with Thomas, he does not seem like the kind of person
>> who would be denying the opportunity for people to debate, and indeed,
>> he was quite clear with me that he's not a dictator (indeed, I got quite
>> the opposite idea from him, that he's a believer in lots of independent
>> action loosely coordinated... the wiki way).
>>
>> I am meeting Thomas on Friday, and of course this will be our main topic
>> of conversation.
>>
>> I really think these issues should be quite easy to resolve.
>>
>> --Jimbo
>>
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