On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:42 PM, Michael Snow <[email protected]>wrote:
> Anthony wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Michael Snow <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Anthony wrote: > >> > >>>> a) a link (URL) to the history page of the article > >>>> or other page that contains the authorship > >>>> information of the articles you are re-using. > >>>> > >>> For offline copies, that would likewise be no attribution at all. > >>> > >> Can we please drop the nonsense that a URL is "no attribution at all" in > >> an offline context? I've made this point before, but URLs do not > >> suddenly become devoid of meaning just because you're using a medium > >> where you can't follow a hyperlink. I could just as soon say that print > >> media aren't acceptable sources for Wikipedia articles because you can't > >> check them by following a hyperlink, it's the same logic. > >> > > It's not the same logic at all. A reference, by the very definition of > the > > term, refers to something outside the work itself. > > > In its own way, attribution by definition refers to something outside > the work itself. Even if you reduce me to the contents of my user page > on Wikipedia, that page is not an actual part of the Wikipedia articles > I've helped write, and that holds true regardless of what you think is > the "right" way to be doing attribution. That's even the case online, > with hyperlinks and all. I suppose it's "not the same logic at all" in > the same way that a URL is "no attribution at all" then? > In the context of an encyclopedia or encyclopedia article, what attribution means seems clear, listing the names or the pseudonyms of the authors. That I'm apt to not raise a fuss over a reuser who fails to do this in certain situations (e.g. where that list is just a click away) does not create a slippery slope whereby it is OK for any reuser to omit this list of names in any situation they deem appropriate. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
