First, if the conclusion is that no procedure exists, a notice should be put on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects stating this so that peoples' expectations are appropriately managed.
Second, is that correct? Looking at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Herero_Wikipedia it seems that there certainly was a procedure in the past where articles were shifted back into the Incubator. Most importantly, should there be a procedure? Keeping projects open is a drain on resources, such as removing vandalism. There is a level of activity below which the positive benefits of the project are outweighed by the drain, although it's clearly not worth closing a project if the effort to do this is not a worthwhile investment. Do you need particular user rights to action such requests? ----- "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > From: "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Sent: Thursday, 20 August, 2009 19:01:39 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, > Portugal > Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Closure of projects > > Hoi, > There is no procedure because what comes closest to a consensus amount to a > lot of work. Work that does not forward our mission one iota. The fact that > people vote and comment is not that special, people do ... if they vote that > I will wear a tutu at Wikimania and a consensus says that I should, I still > have to volunteer to wear that tutu. It is the same as voting for a bug in > bugzilla. The votes are not considered so why bother ? > > As to the language committee, it does only consider new requests for > projects ... if it were to expand its services it would be in indicating > what issues exist that deal with language support that would make a > difference to the usability of our software. It would not be drinking from > the poisoned chalice that is closing projects. The closest we came to > expressing an opinion is that we would prefer the content of a to be closed > project to be imported into the Incubator. This is a not good for Incubator > because they get dead wood loaded into their project .... > > So all in all in my opinion it is best to leave these things as is and > ignore requests for closure. > Thanks, > GerardM > > 2009/8/20 Huib! <abi...@forgotten-beauty.com> > > > Hello, > > > > I noticed that there are still a lot of open request for closure on Meta > > so I decided to contact a LangCom member (Robin) asking him about how > > and when the projects will be closed or when the requests will be > > closed, but I recieved a answer I didn't expected. > > > > Robin told me there was no policy ( > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Closure_of_WMF_projects ) about the > > closure of projects so the request can stay open for always. > > > > > > I think its kind of strange that we people can make a request, that > > there are people who are voting and spending there time commenting on > > the request or even worse have stress because there project could be > > closed but the request will never be closed. > > > > > > Is there a way to change this with a new policy, or with a different com > > for the closure, because this seems to me a waste of time for a lot of > > people, people can stop editting projects just because the think the > > project will be closed. > > > > At this moment there are 27 request for projects to be closed, ( > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects ) I think > > 50% is a easy closure for keep or close. The oldest project is from 2007 > > that would mean its still open after 2 years :/ > > > > -- > > *Huib Laurens* > > > > Web: Forgotten-beauty.com <http://www.forgotten-beauty.com.com/> > > Email: abi...@forgotten-beauty.com <mailto:abi...@forgotten-beauty.com> > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l