On 21 February 2010 10:33, Tomasz Ganicz <[email protected]> wrote: > 2010/2/21 Ray Saintonge <[email protected]>: >> Tomasz Ganicz wrote: >>> 2010/2/20 Ray Saintonge: >>> >>>> Probabilistic arguments are difficult to establish when the majority >>>> still believes in legal certainty in the same way that it believes in God. >>>> >>> I am not quite sure what you wanted to say :-) Anyway - this cited >>> sentence is for me a nice expression of "0 tolerance" copyright >>> paranoia definition. In fact, most attorneys say usually to their >>> clients that there is nothing like legal certainty as long as the >>> court verdict is known and being innocent does not give you 100% >>> probability that you won't be sentenced as guilty. Everyone can be a >>> suspect of committing a crime and it is just a matter of probability >>> that vast majority of people are not taken to jail. This is just >>> because the number of beds in jails is limited :-) >>> >>> >> My apologies if my analogy wasn't clear. Many people tend to treat the >> Bible as the word of God that must be valid in all circumstances, >> choosing to ignore any ridiculous results that that may produce. >> Similarly, people unfamiliar with law also tend toward a strict >> interpretation of statute without regard to any other influences, or >> without any understanding of the body of judicial interpretation that >> surrounds those statutes. >> > > Yes.. This is typical adminship POV on Wikimedia Commons nowadays and > it spreads to many other Wikimedia projects including meta, as more > and more Wikimedia projects decides to transfer all of their files to > Commons. Legal decision should be taken out from project's communities > "jurisdiction" and given into hands of professional lawyers or at > least people who had copyright law practical training. Otherwise > things are based on current flows of moods of amorphous communities, > which is quite often unpredictable and has very little in common with > real legal problems, or it is even sometimes based on false over > interpretation of law imposed by copyright paranoia guerillas. On > Commons it is so easy to start deletion process and vast majority of > cases are not analyzed by anyone who has a real, practical knowledge > about copyright law. Just add copyvio template and with around 6-7 > hours your picture is deleted.
Not so. For example this lot still exist although pretty much everything in the category is a copyvio. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Murals_in_Derry Not even UK Freedom of panorama is that broad. It's actualy quite a bit of work to kill of all but the most obvious copyvios. -- geni _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
