2010/11/28 dinar qorbanof <[email protected]>:
> i should ask first whether wikipedia collects logs.
no, probably as i asked is better, because it like has 2 questions in
it, and usually logs are collected, and it is said in privacy policy
that they may be collected, and even if they are not collected now,
they can be collected.

2010/11/28 dinar qorbanof <[email protected]>:
> 2010/11/28 FastLizard4 <[email protected]>:
>> Here in the U.S., ISPs keep records of who used what IP address at what
>> time.  So, let's say that I had a dynamic IP address that changed every
>> day.  If I got arrested and the courts ordered my ISP to give them a
>> list of IP addresses I have used in the last month, they would do so,
>> complete with the times I used each IP address.
> so in russia. i say only about relative anonymousity, not against
> government, but against different people.
i said "only about relative anonymousity, not against government, but
against different people" about this:
i said:
>i think that probably they intentionally use dynamic ip for some anonymousity
for that i had said "some". also it is anonymous against government
temporarily, before they trace source ip.
(temporary anonymousity of reading is basic right, for more, easier
trustability of internet, to check that server is not fooling users
sending different content to different people. for example,
theoretically, "closed" social network or forum can show to user his
post with link, hoping he will feel ok, but hide it from other users,
this maybe, for example because it is link to competitor site and
owners of the closed site do some agressive smo blocking link to
competitor sites. "closed" mean that you cannot read it if you are not
logged in. but in this case the closed site also has risk to be
"caught", if user checks his post with several people through
alternative channels or publishing in open site about that he posted
in closed site. but it is hard to check so. availability of anonymous
reading is easy. and should be no premoderation. in that case, even
users who do not see any link to competitor sites can be sure that
they see that anybody else see in the site, and that anybody can post
useful links and other posts, at least temporarily. )

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