And no English speaker is able to learn a second language? _____ *Béria Lima* <http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 925 171 484
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. É isso o que estamos a fazer.*** 2011/4/15 Sarah <[email protected]> > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 13:07, Béria Lima <[email protected]> wrote: > > Is not a Bias Sarah. Anyone can apply, but they have to know english (if > not > > as 1º language as 2º one) and another language (if english is the 1º > one). > > If this person is american, chinese, brazilian or african (i imagine) > that > > really don't care > > _____ > > *Béria Lima* > > <http://wikimedia.pt/> (351) 925 171 484 > > It doesn't say that, Béria. It seems to say that, ideally, the > successful applicant will not have English as a first language, i.e. > will not be from most of Canada, the United States, Australia, New > Zealand, England, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Barbados, Trinidad and > Tobago, and several more. > > That rules out a huge number of Wikimedians (most, in fact) just > because of their birthplace and culture. > > The ad says: "Demonstrated ability to work (speak, read, write at a > professional level) effectively in a language other than English > (ideally as a native speaker)" > > Sarah > > > > 2011/4/15 Sarah <[email protected]> > > > >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:42, Fred Bauder <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> I understood that they wanted someone who was ideally *not* a native > >> >> English speaker. That was something that concerned me when I read it, > >> >> because it looked as if the intention was to disadvantage applicants > >> >> who had English as a first language. Or did I misunderstand it? > >> >> > >> >> "Demonstrated ability to work (speak, read, write at a professional > >> >> level) effectively in a language other than English (ideally as a > >> >> native speaker)" > >> > > >> > English speakers and Europeans generally, such as you and I, dominate > >> > most Wikimedia conversations. I doubt anyone could function in this > >> > position if they didn't understand English, but our hope is to get the > >> > rest of the world involved. > >> > > >> > However it is hard to imagine an ideal second language that is not > >> > European; only Arabic is spoken by a large diverse population with > >> > internet access. > >> > > >> Is that kind of bias against national origin allowed when hiring? > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> foundation-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
