On Aug 6, 2011, at 3:14 AM, Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello MZM, thanks for taking a start at new pages to illustrate the
> discussion on Meta.
>
> MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> writes:
> .
>
>
>> Anyone who thinks that this particular issue
>> is outside of this list's scope is insane. Using internal-l as a substitute
>> for an open discussion isn't appropriate or in line with Wikimedia's values.
>
> Internal-l is, among other things, a place for chapters to discuss
> chapter-internal topics in a slightly quieter forum. I would prefer
> for it to be a world-readable group-writeable list, since I see few
> reasons for truly private discussions about movementwide issues... but
> as long as we have internal-l as currently designed, this topic seems
> appropriate there too.
That wasn't the design of internal-l, and I hope no-one misinterpts your mail
to think this. Internal-l as it was designed could never have been made
publicly readable. If it has quietly morphed into something other than what it
was originally advertised as, such things can happen. To be completely honest,
if I had not been rather wary of the prospect of it not living up to it's
design at the time I would have asked to join. I really don't enjoy telling
people they are fools, yet I feel like coward when I stay silent. So I just I
tend to avoid forums where I expect a lot of foolishness. But I can't have much
sympathy for chapters feeling bullied by WMF when they only address the issues
important to them in a manner so conductive to manipulation.
BirgitteSB
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